Manual White Balance

beivied · 13th July 2004

Hi guys.. i tried manual white balance at Kuantan/Tioman two weeks ago .. results may not be too favourable, but guess i can show the photos to you guys.. and the different results that i get ...

using manual white balance

using cloudy white balance

NOTE: the vis was really, really bad... probably 5m at most. only the white balance was changed.

beivied · 13th July 2004

beivied · 13th July 2004

ithink my shutter speed is too slow, all a little blurry ..

clive · 13th July 2004

cloudy WB is er...the green looks too fakeish? like nightvision like that

but the manual WB makes the pic look really really realistic

its like..wow..so thsi is how underwater looks like =)

beivied · 13th July 2004

hahha.. by the way, no PS work done on these photos at all.. the actual visibility of the wreck that day was more like the greenish photo.. except that it is a tad too green.. but to do justice to the manual white balance, and also to let you guys have a better feel of the actual vis and how the wreck looked like in terms of colour to the naked (ok, masked) eyes, it is more towards the like of the greenish photo.

clive · 13th July 2004

so that means the "manual WB version" is what we can expect to actually see underwater when the visibility is much clearer?

lanxx · 15th July 2004

But I find manual WB too troublesome..

kthan · 15th July 2004

if u shoot RAW, there is no need of manual WB underwater. Agree that it is too troublesome, having to bring something white or grey u/w. Also u have to do a manual W/B on different depths.

Shooting RAW, the WB can be adjusted on the PC.

Eric

siaoon · 15th July 2004

Well, think initial few try out will be troublesome..
but after a few more tries and developing a pattern of doing it..
its shld be easy and comfortable liao..
well.. of coz.. its consider more things to do.. comparing to those w strobes...

however personally its juz another alternative for ppl w/o strobes..
or u dun hav a x drive or a bigbig storage card for yr camera to use raw..

hmm..
maybe puffy can share more with us as i think she tried this method quite frequently..

hmmm beivied.. does c5050 got bracketing function..??? juz think u need to -1/3 or 2/3 stops.. or use bracketing loh..

hee.. well.. think its juz another way to fully utilising yr camera ability..

beivied · 15th July 2004

i use my writing slate which i always bring down anyway. intially i do find it troublesome but after a while it becomes pretty ok.

you can bring colours to your photos be it wide angle or macro, using strobes, ambient lighting manual or not manual white balance, raw function or just photoshop. but i think the same effects cannot be replicated. or my skills not there la, i feel that there will be a difference in effect for the different methods. in fact, i think with strobes is a hassle as well. a lot more to think in terms of strobe placement compare to "take slate up, aim, shoot, shoot at subject again".

i would try RAW the next time though (dunno when i can bring camera down again, sigh).

anyone wanna sell their red filter???

eh ... maybe can help comment on the pics? Pufferfishy?

hmm... bracketing... you take my camera and yan jiu lo, haha. no it doesnt. as far as i know la. waisj? lovells?

scotsman · 15th July 2004

These are some of my attempts with manual white balance using my slate board. Problem is that u need to keep resetting it at different depths..

scotsman · 15th July 2004

Think I read some where that is much better to use a Red filter to add color and then set ur white balance manually. That way, the red is already there rather than having the camera artifically create it.

alv777 · 15th July 2004

wow! I'm amaze what manual wb can show.

alv777 · 15th July 2004

Originally Posted by beivied

i use my writing slate which i always bring down anyway. intially i do find it troublesome but after a while it becomes pretty ok.

how frequent do you ahve to readjust the w/b again? is it like every 5m or something?

beivied · 15th July 2004

scotsman your pics are better than mine

alv, its best if you can reset it every shot, haha. but i do it agar like every 3 or 2 m.

13th July 2004	#1
beivied Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: East, Singapore Posts: 4,213	Manual White Balance Hi guys.. i tried manual white balance at Kuantan/Tioman two weeks ago .. results may not be too favourable, but guess i can show the photos to you guys.. and the different results that i get ... using manual white balance using cloudy white balance NOTE: the vis was really, really bad... probably 5m at most. only the white balance was changed.

13th July 2004	#5
beivied Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: East, Singapore Posts: 4,213	hahha.. by the way, no PS work done on these photos at all.. the actual visibility of the wreck that day was more like the greenish photo.. except that it is a tad too green.. but to do justice to the manual white balance, and also to let you guys have a better feel of the actual vis and how the wreck looked like in terms of colour to the naked (ok, masked) eyes, it is more towards the like of the greenish photo. Last edited by beivied; 13th July 2004 at 12:41 AM.

15th July 2004	#10
beivied Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: East, Singapore Posts: 4,213	i use my writing slate which i always bring down anyway. intially i do find it troublesome but after a while it becomes pretty ok. you can bring colours to your photos be it wide angle or macro, using strobes, ambient lighting manual or not manual white balance, raw function or just photoshop. but i think the same effects cannot be replicated. or my skills not there la, i feel that there will be a difference in effect for the different methods. in fact, i think with strobes is a hassle as well. a lot more to think in terms of strobe placement compare to "take slate up, aim, shoot, shoot at subject again". i would try RAW the next time though (dunno when i can bring camera down again, sigh). anyone wanna sell their red filter??? eh ... maybe can help comment on the pics? Pufferfishy? hmm... bracketing... you take my camera and yan jiu lo, haha. no it doesnt. as far as i know la. waisj? lovells? Last edited by beivied; 15th July 2004 at 12:26 PM.

13th July 2004	#4
clive Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,573	cloudy WB is er...the green looks too fakeish? like nightvision like that but the manual WB makes the pic look really really realistic its like..wow..so thsi is how underwater looks like =)

15th July 2004	#7
lanxx Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 897	But I find manual WB too troublesome..

15th July 2004	#8
kthan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,318	if u shoot RAW, there is no need of manual WB underwater. Agree that it is too troublesome, having to bring something white or grey u/w. Also u have to do a manual W/B on different depths. Shooting RAW, the WB can be adjusted on the PC. Eric

15th July 2004	#9
siaoon Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 738	Well, think initial few try out will be troublesome.. but after a few more tries and developing a pattern of doing it.. its shld be easy and comfortable liao.. well.. of coz.. its consider more things to do.. comparing to those w strobes... however personally its juz another alternative for ppl w/o strobes.. or u dun hav a x drive or a bigbig storage card for yr camera to use raw.. hmm.. maybe puffy can share more with us as i think she tried this method quite frequently.. hmmm beivied.. does c5050 got bracketing function..??? juz think u need to -1/3 or 2/3 stops.. or use bracketing loh.. hee.. well.. think its juz another way to fully utilising yr camera ability..

15th July 2004	#11
scotsman Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above Land Posts: 92	These are some of my attempts with manual white balance using my slate board. Problem is that u need to keep resetting it at different depths..

15th July 2004	#13
alv777 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 105	wow! I'm amaze what manual wb can show.

15th July 2004	#15
beivied Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: East, Singapore Posts: 4,213	scotsman your pics are better than mine alv, its best if you can reset it every shot, haha. but i do it agar like every 3 or 2 m.