Sarah Silver Seminar-Comments sought

reachme2003 · 12th July 2004

Those who attended Sarah Silver seminar last week, kindly post your comments or insights here. Thank you.

For me, I only realise that a local distributor of Sinar brought her in and, gladly, did not turn out to be a Sinar product endorsement type seminar.
As I left just before 4pm, the participation by the attendees were less than active. Or it could be that large majority of the attendees are not professionals, thus lacking the inputs to draw on her experience.

KNIGHT ONG · 12th July 2004

Sarah is more on studio shooting and she delivered what she has to share, personnally think the pricing for half a day seminar is a bit high at $80 .. some more took half day leave ..

I likes the practical session she delivered ..

reachme2003 · 12th July 2004

Originally Posted by KNIGHT ONG

Sarah is more on studio shooting and she delivered what she has to share, personnally think the pricing for half a day seminar is a bit high at $80 .. some more took half day leave ..

I likes the practical session she delivered ..

Yes, the price is on the high side especially when it is a corporate sponsored event.

rueyloon · 12th July 2004

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AJ23 · 12th July 2004

Originally Posted by reachme2003

Yes, the price is on the high side especially when it is a corporate sponsored event.

Same sentiments.

KNIGHT ONG · 12th July 2004

Originally Posted by rueyloon

Ace <--------------------

Ace is the first guy who went up the stage and shoot ...

Maybe should call him and see what he got ..

rueyloon · 12th July 2004

we learnt that.............

- digital is better than film, expecially the sinar 54 back
- all images are touched up...... just like chicken needs to be cooked
- touching up started from the dark ages of photography when they use brushes or knives on the images
- she considers all her assignments challenging and there is no such thing as her "most challenging assignment"
- we should not laugh if a model accidentally reveals her undies
- we should not ask a model to jump especally if she is on heels
- we should not volunteer and start walking out when Sarah asked for someone to replace the female model....... because it is obviously a joke
- should not take photos during the talk......... because someone from the back will shout "eh dude, can you stop doing THAT !?!?"
- we should go to a photography talk wearing a photographer's vest and put a fully loaded camera with lens and flash on our lap
- when Sarah goes "yeah !" or "cool !" you should echo the same..... from your seat in the audience loud enough for everyone to hear

we learnt all, complements to 1 guy

12th July 2004

Just started a new thread as I hadn't seen this one...

I didn't get a great deal out of the afternoon. She is obviously a great photographer and I think her work is amazing. However, she is not a great lecturer, seemed to have little plan for the afternoon and found it difficult to connect with the audience.

I thought the 'audience participation' part was a waste and we would've been better seeing her shoot again.

Her advice on Digital Workflow was no better than you could find here on Clubsnap...things like 'Backing-up is important'...'know your equipment'....etc...

I always think that if you can get three or four useful things from a course then it is worthwhile. I'm not sure I got that on Friday.

sfhuang · 12th July 2004

Other than the opportunity to see Sarah posing/shooting the model, it was a half day's leave wasted.

vince123123 · 12th July 2004

1 guy can teach you so many things? who's the **GOD**?

Originally Posted by rueyloon

we learnt that.............

- digital is better than film, expecially the sinar 54 back
- all images are touched up...... just like chicken needs to be cooked
- touching up started from the dark ages of photography when they use brushes or knives on the images
- she considers all her assignments challenging and there is no such thing as her "most challenging assignment"
- we should not laugh if a model accidentally reveals her undies
- we should not ask a model to jump especally if she is on heels
- we should not volunteer and start walking out when Sarah asked for someone to replace the female model....... because it is obviously a joke
- should not take photos during the talk......... because someone from the back will shout "eh dude, can you stop doing THAT !?!?"
- we should go to a photography talk wearing a photographer's vest and put a fully loaded camera with lens and flash on our lap
- when Sarah goes "yeah !" or "cool !" you should echo the same..... from your seat in the audience loud enough for everyone to hear

we learnt all, complements to 1 guy

SniperD · 12th July 2004

he's ACE... William Hung of Photography

nightwolf75 · 12th July 2004

Originally Posted by SniperD

he's ACE... William Hung of Photography

eh... as in "i've no training. i've tried my best. i've no regrets"....

KNIGHT ONG · 12th July 2004

Originally Posted by SniperD

he's ACE... William Hung of Photography

Btw, I find him performs better than the later 2 guys who went up there leh ..

sfhuang · 12th July 2004

Originally Posted by KNIGHT ONG

Btw, I find him performs better than the later 2 guys who went up there leh ..

The last guy was the worst. Asking the model to fall forward, what the heck was he thinking?

rueyloon · 12th July 2004

the last guy is terrence yeung, the temasek polytechnic's photography course teacher

PentiumPC · 12th July 2004

not much.. take it as a break..

zOOm · 12th July 2004

On Digital Workflow :- frankly, almost fall asleep, sorrie :P
On Live Photoshoot :- interesting and plenty of new stuffs to pickup;
her interactions with model are so lively & fluid as she move from pose to pose, encouraging & demo-ing the pose herself (hmmm ... I think it helps that she have a solid dancing foundation)
On audience participation :- Fun ... perhaps hilarious

Will like to see more her live photoshoot handling a few kind of scenrio:-
- model with less experience
- model with studdorn & bad behaviour
- photoshoot involve more then 1 model

2cents .....

jovedaddy · 13th July 2004

personally, i thought the session was worth the $80 + leave. how often do you get to see a world class photog executing a shoot with narration? i felt she delivered it well and shared her knowledge and experience generously.

reachme2003 · 13th July 2004

A question to clarify. The background used was complete white. However, the shots taken shows a range of grey, sometimes it appeared as graduated grey tone. I concluded that it is the effect of light falloff from the two umbrellas, after taking into account the distance from the model to the background paper . Is my conclusion accurate?

vince123123 · 13th July 2004

never use separate background light?

Originally Posted by reachme2003

A question to clarify. The background used was complete white. However, the shots taken shows a range of grey, sometimes it appeared as graduated grey tone. I concluded that it is the effect of light falloff from the two umbrellas, after taking into account the distance from the model to the background paper . Is my conclusion accurate?

12th July 2004	#1
reachme2003 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,540	Sarah Silver Seminar-Comments sought Those who attended Sarah Silver seminar last week, kindly post your comments or insights here. Thank you. For me, I only realise that a local distributor of Sinar brought her in and, gladly, did not turn out to be a Sinar product endorsement type seminar. As I left just before 4pm, the participation by the attendees were less than active. Or it could be that large majority of the attendees are not professionals, thus lacking the inputs to draw on her experience.

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KNIGHT ONG Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Snow Mountain Posts: 5,729	Sarah is more on studio shooting and she delivered what she has to share, personnally think the pricing for half a day seminar is a bit high at $80 .. some more took half day leave .. I likes the practical session she delivered .. __________________ AMPA * Studio * J team

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SniperD Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Behind the viewfinder... Posts: 5,954	he's ACE... William Hung of Photography __________________ EYE-DEAS

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PentiumPC Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 377	not much.. take it as a break.. Last edited by PentiumPC; 12th July 2004 at 08:40 PM.

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jovedaddy Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sengkang Posts: 391	personally, i thought the session was worth the $80 + leave. how often do you get to see a world class photog executing a shoot with narration? i felt she delivered it well and shared her knowledge and experience generously. Last edited by jovedaddy; 13th July 2004 at 03:46 AM. Reason: corrected mistake :O)

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rueyloon Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,539	Ace <--------------------

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Phildate Guests Posts: n/a	Just started a new thread as I hadn't seen this one... I didn't get a great deal out of the afternoon. She is obviously a great photographer and I think her work is amazing. However, she is not a great lecturer, seemed to have little plan for the afternoon and found it difficult to connect with the audience. I thought the 'audience participation' part was a waste and we would've been better seeing her shoot again. Her advice on Digital Workflow was no better than you could find here on Clubsnap...things like 'Backing-up is important'...'know your equipment'....etc... I always think that if you can get three or four useful things from a course then it is worthwhile. I'm not sure I got that on Friday.

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sfhuang Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 972	Other than the opportunity to see Sarah posing/shooting the model, it was a half day's leave wasted.

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zOOm Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 243	On Digital Workflow :- frankly, almost fall asleep, sorrie :P On Live Photoshoot :- interesting and plenty of new stuffs to pickup; her interactions with model are so lively & fluid as she move from pose to pose, encouraging & demo-ing the pose herself (hmmm ... I think it helps that she have a solid dancing foundation) On audience participation :- Fun ... perhaps hilarious Will like to see more her live photoshoot handling a few kind of scenrio:- - model with less experience - model with studdorn & bad behaviour - photoshoot involve more then 1 model 2cents .....