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    Another shooting case at US Arizona, 6 dead and 12 injured. Among the dead, 1 is a federal judge. A 9mm Glock Model 19 handgun is believed to be the murder weapon.


    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/us-congre.../139889-2.html

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-shooting.html
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    Oh no..

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    My god..among the dead also a nine year old girl..this guy's a psycho

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    my gawd! gun law!
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    Its good that SG banned guns...
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    guns dont kill people, people kills people.
    Objection !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    guns dont kill people, people kills people.
    True but guns allow people to kill people faster, with convenience...
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    The sad thing was that one of the victims was a 9 year old girl born during the 9/11 event. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Override2Zion View Post
    Its good that SG banned guns...
    You are TOTALLY wrong, GUNS are not banned in Singapore. Any person can legally own a handgun, rifle or shotgun if they are a member of SRA, SGC and meet all the criteria requirements.

    I have had my firearms here in Singapore since 1990 when I moved here .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Override2Zion View Post
    True but guns allow people to kill people faster, with convenience...
    Do you know this for a fact ? Have you ever tried to kill a person with a gun ....

    I advice you to be careful in making such wide ranging statements without proof or first hand knowledge.

    Its comments like this that causes public hysteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiruikage View Post
    my gawd! gun law!
    Why do you say gun law ?

    Gun Laws dont work at all, look at Australia / UK both countries have gun bans in place, but it hasnt stopped crimes involving firearms, infact they have increased.

    Gun Laws only work to keep firearms out of the hands of law abiding people, criminals will always get guns no matter what.

    Look at Singapore, firearms are restricted items, but a person can still own them, but there have been many crimes involving firearms in Singapore, so tell me do gun laws really work ?

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    Home of the Brave.... Land of the Free....

    And Yes, while Guns by themselves doesn't 'Kill' people.... its sures does allow one single man/woman to hurt/kill more people at range, than if they are only using a knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deyeno View Post
    Do you know this for a fact ? Have you ever tried to kill a person with a gun .... I advice you to be careful in making such wide ranging statements without proof or first hand knowledge. Its comments like this that causes public hysteria.
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    Umm... I don't think my comments are based on no grounds. I've not killed anyone or shot at anyone, please refrain from asking questions like that, its rather insulting. But been shooting with rifles for the past 10 years, practising legally of course. Why were guns invented in the first place? Its a good point for debate. A gun is a weapon and there are reasons why we shouldn't allow people to own them easily.

    A robber with a gun is a criminal, a policeman with a gun is a protector. It is subjective on whether it can be used to do good or bad. How many shooting cases are there in US? Compare that with Singapore. If guns were freely available I'm sure you'd have a lot more gun related violence. Do not be over protective because you own a gun.
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    Lets also look at it from another perspective ....

    When someone has brainfade and then kills someone with a gun, everyone cries foul need tougher laws etc ...

    But what about CARS, how many people are killed in car accidents as the result of brainfades, speeding, drinking etc ... BUT CARS or Alcohol are not banned WHY ?

    Car accidents kill more people in Singapore than firearm related incidents.!!!

    Its not the CAR Or Firearm that kills, its the person behind the steering wheel or the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deyeno View Post
    Lets also look at it from another perspective ....

    When someone has brainfade and then kills someone with a gun, everyone cries foul need tougher laws etc ...

    But what about CARS, how many people are killed in car accidents as the result of brainfades, speeding, drinking etc ... BUT CARS or Alcohol are not banned WHY ?

    Car accidents kill more people in Singapore than firearm related incidents.!!!

    Its not the CAR Or Firearm that kills, its the person behind the steering wheel or the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deyeno View Post
    Lets also look at it from another perspective ....
    But what about CARS, how many people are killed in car accidents as the result of brainfades, speeding, drinking etc ... BUT CARS or Alcohol are not banned WHY ?
    Camera could kill people too, by hitting a target on head or a certain organ repeatively casuing death in so many ways.

    So should it banned too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deyeno View Post
    but there have been many crimes involving firearms in Singapore
    Do quote some to state your claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deyeno View Post
    Car accidents kill more people in Singapore than firearm related incidents.!!!
    You've answered the question yourself. "Car accidents"... It was an accident, unplanned. If you pull a trigger to kill someone, thats intentional. A bullet from a gun does nothing but to penetrate a target, it doesn't cut meat like a chopper does and it doesn't bring us places like a bus does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deyeno View Post
    Do you know this for a fact ? Have you ever tried to kill a person with a gun ....

    I advice you to be careful in making such wide ranging statements without proof or first hand knowledge.

    Its comments like this that causes public hysteria.

    Cheers ....
    I think this is uncalled for.

    When someone has brainfade and then kills someone with a gun, everyone cries foul need tougher laws etc ...

    But what about CARS, how many people are killed in car accidents as the result of brainfades, speeding, drinking etc ... BUT CARS or Alcohol are not banned WHY ?

    Car accidents kill more people in Singapore than firearm related incidents.!!!

    Its not the CAR Or Firearm that kills, its the person behind the steering wheel or the trigger.
    Not a very good comparison to make, guns were designed to immobilise and effectively kill people and animals. Cars were designed as transport. The only similarity they have is that both can be used as a weapon for destruction. The big difference is that people do not want to kill other people using a car, but people with guns do! Sure accidents occur in both cases but having the ability to kill someone with the flick of a trigger is no accident at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saveDqueen View Post
    Camera could kill people too, by hitting a target on head or a certain organ repeatively casuing death in so many ways.

    So should it banned too?
    Nice scenario!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deyeno
    Lets also look at it from another perspective ....

    When someone has brainfade and then kills someone with a gun, everyone cries foul need tougher laws etc ...

    But what about CARS, how many people are killed in car accidents as the result of brainfades, speeding, drinking etc ... BUT CARS or Alcohol are not banned WHY ?

    Car accidents kill more people in Singapore than firearm related incidents.!!!

    Its not the CAR Or Firearm that kills, its the person behind the steering wheel or the trigger.

    Cheers ....
    Nonsense. Totally unrelated.

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