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    Hi All,

    Just want to find out if most of us perform cropping first then edit the photograph, or do editing first then crop at the end.

    Feedback are most welcome.
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    I always edit first and then crop. This way I can get the whole picture when editing and also the area I want to crop may change after the editing. Just my personal opinion. Others may do it the other way.

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    i always do this:

    1. make a copy of the master copy


    2. i adopt the 2:3 ratio as a benchmark of how to crop. becoz after thinking it thru long n hard, i realised that 2:3 is the "best choice" since

    (i) the viewfinder is 2:3 in the first place
    (ii) im usually be going to print out either in 4"x6" or 8"x12" (and 12"x18" for a rare few times)

    so i go on and inspect the photo. if its "perfect framing", then no need to crop -> can proceed to edit. if the framing is "off", then i try to crop "the best looking 2:3 " out from it.


    3. then edit as many different version as u like

    ;-)
    Last edited by clive; 9th July 2004 at 08:56 PM.

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    is something like u prefer wash the chicken first ......... or u chop the chicken n then wash the chicken.. which one more better??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake
    is something like u prefer wash the chicken first ......... or u chop the chicken n then wash the chicken.. which one more better??
    We're trying to discuss some technicalities here. Thanx very much for the 'joke'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo
    We're trying to discuss some technicalities here. Thanx very much for the 'joke'.
    sry ....
    Last edited by Snake; 10th July 2004 at 12:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake
    sry ....
    It's OK. The punishment: contribute more constructive comments to my thread and to CS!
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    Upz for this thread. You mean so few people use PS, so few people use crop and so few people edit their photos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo
    We're trying to discuss some technicalities here. Thanx very much for the 'joke'.
    i think its quite a close analogy actually....

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmacs
    i think its quite a close analogy actually....
    Quite close lah. However, I'm trying to find some technicalities here.
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    I tend to edit then crop. BUT.

    a) auto functions like auto color/contrast/levels tend to work better if you don't have your superfluous areas (that you would have cropped out)

    b) the files are smaller after cropping, so photoshop works faster on it.

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    I usually edit first than crop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clive
    2. i adopt the 2:3 ratio as a benchmark of how to crop. becoz after thinking it thru long n hard, i realised that 2:3 is the "best choice" since

    (i) the viewfinder is 2:3 in the first place
    (ii) im usually be going to print out either in 4"x6" or 8"x12" (and 12"x18" for a rare few times)
    Care to share what's the resolution do you use?
    is it 1600:2400 180px/in ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST_sg
    is it 1600:2400 180px/in ?

    Thanks.
    1600x2400 pixels...r u refering to the setting on the camera itself?

    the 180pixels per inch...er..i dunno where u get this from ah?
    coz the only thign i know is:

    1. if not shooting raw, the set the camera setting to the "best possible" jpeg
    2. shoot...
    3. transfer the original master copies to computer
    4. clone the master copies (work on the clones)
    5. for the clones: everything crop to 2:3 ratio.
    6. then sharpen, adjust contrast, exposure, colour
    7. save as jpeg quality"12", baseline "optimised".

    so..the "180pixel per inch" thingy..er..where u get from one ah? :-)

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    Will usually crop with a 2:3 fixed aspect ratio selection, then edit. I rely heavily on the histogram to get the right balance of shades and colours. By not cropping the unwanted parts out, especially in areas of extreme highlights or shadows, may result in the histogram indicating an inaccurate distribution.

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    i crop first then edit, cannot stand the 'inbalance' of the shot. i need to compose properly first and then adjust the colours later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clive
    1600x2400 pixels...r u refering to the setting on the camera itself?

    the 180pixels per inch...er..i dunno where u get this from ah?
    coz the only thign i know is:

    1. if not shooting raw, the set the camera setting to the "best possible" jpeg
    2. shoot...
    3. transfer the original master copies to computer
    4. clone the master copies (work on the clones)
    5. for the clones: everything crop to 2:3 ratio.
    6. then sharpen, adjust contrast, exposure, colour
    7. save as jpeg quality"12", baseline "optimised".

    so..the "180pixel per inch" thingy..er..where u get from one ah? :-)
    I noticed it from Photoshop CS, image size & crop properties lor.
    How do you maintain the 2:3 ratio crop huh?

    Thanks for sharing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST_sg
    I noticed it from Photoshop CS, image size & crop properties lor.
    How do you maintain the 2:3 ratio crop huh?

    Thanks for sharing.
    Use the rectangular selection tool set at a fixed aspect ratio of 2:3 / 3:2 (depending on orientation of the photo) to select the part of the original picture and use the crop command under the Image pulldown menu. Using the Crop tool at on the side bar will usually result in the selection being resized.

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    Ha, seems like we have a draw here. 50-50. 1/2 select crop first and 1/2 select edit first!
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