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    1. In which area is critique or feedback to be given?
    Composition, exposure and any other thing that you think might help me with taking better photos next time.

    Wish to learn more from the senior over here to improve on all the stuffs that i should take note of.

    BULB mode/f10/iso100/EFS17-200 IS Lens

    2. What were you hoping to achieve with this image?
    I want to show the beautiful night of Marina Bay through the picture.

    3. Under what circumstance was the picture taken?
    I took the picture at Marina Shoppoing coffee shop, clear sky and windy, using Tripod.

    4.what the critique seeker personally thinks of the picture
    Personally, I think this picture is okay but i know I can improve more if given good advice and guidiance. 1st nightout on my 1st dslr and 1st critique.

    As i am a newbie still, your comments and critiques will be greatly appreciated and will help me to learn more about photographing.
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    I thought it is overexposed especially at the bottom right corner.

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    IMO, this picture seems abit tight. You cut off the you structures on both sides. And secondly, the purple seems abit overexpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngopkhoi View Post
    I thought it is overexposed especially at the bottom right corner.
    I agreed, so may ask what should I do in this situation? Thanks for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleshem View Post
    IMO, this picture seems abit tight. You cut off the you structures on both sides. And secondly, the purple seems abit overexpose.
    I agreed, so may ask what should I do in this situation? Thanks for the feedback.

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    erm.. In this case I think you should lower down your exposure time. May I know how many second was the shutter speed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngopkhoi View Post
    erm.. In this case I think you should lower down your exposure time. May I know how many second was the shutter speed?
    I am using BULB mode, ISO 1000, F10. So did not change Shutter speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngopkhoi View Post
    erm.. In this case I think you should lower down your exposure time. May I know how many second was the shutter speed?
    i dun think if u lower exposure, u can see any more building.

    u can try exposure blending

    or if u dun want, dun go when its so late. get a time where the buildings are relatively brighter. then the lights wont look blown

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    Quote Originally Posted by klim66 View Post
    I am using BULB mode, ISO 1000, F10. So did not change Shutter speed.
    bulb mode means u control shutter speed bro...

    it means how long u hold ur shutter button, thats how long u expose.

    if u hold 1 sec, expose 1 sec.

    if u hold 1 hour, expose 1 hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klim66 View Post
    I am using BULB mode, ISO 1000, F10. So did not change Shutter speed.
    Using F8, ISO 100 AEB will produce better result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klim66 View Post
    I am using BULB mode, ISO 1000, F10. So did not change Shutter speed.
    since you are on tripod, no need to boost your iso till so high

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    I find the picture overexposed and the purplish lighting of the roof top looks unnatural.
    Perhaps you want to try with different settings and see which produce the best results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allenleonhart View Post
    bulb mode means u control shutter speed bro...

    it means how long u hold ur shutter button, thats how long u expose.

    if u hold 1 sec, expose 1 sec.

    if u hold 1 hour, expose 1 hour.
    oops! Actually used 2secs timer, but got to press on the camera button till 2secs countdown finished and released. Dun know why the timer dun really goes with the BULB mode???

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwttan View Post
    I find the picture overexposed and the purplish lighting of the roof top looks unnatural.
    Perhaps you want to try with different settings and see which produce the best results.
    thanks! what mode do you recommend, cos this is my first time to use DSLR and i know i need to setup 3 things, Apecture, ISO, Shutter Speed....but still not sure what settings good for each type of Scenario.

    Your advice will be help me go further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleshem View Post
    since you are on tripod, no need to boost your iso till so high
    Thanks, I tried to lower the ISO, it looks dark on the VF. So until I adjust to 1000, then i was able to see this lighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klim66 View Post
    thanks! what mode do you recommend, cos this is my first time to use DSLR and i know i need to setup 3 things, Apecture, ISO, Shutter Speed....but still not sure what settings good for each type of Scenario.

    Your advice will be help me go further.
    If use tripod, choose lower ISO (100/200 depends on your cam). You can choose either shutter or manual mode. For aperture, I prefer to choose >16. Use slow shutter speed, perhaps 20-30 sec. There is no fix settings, you need to try/test out on the spot. Perhaps other seniors can provide better advise.
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    Why have you chosed to take the photo from where you are? Was ot because you happened to be there? Or do you think you could work out a composition with potential at that location? Truth be told, the composition is messy and incomplete at the same time.

    First, the structure in the foreground is a major major letdown, its distracting and takes attention away from your intended subject ( which I presumed was MBS). Ever since the museum took shape, the design and proportion of it is totally detached from the rest of the buildings in the MBS cluster. Hence placing the museum closer to the frame actually amplifies this uncomfortable fit and obstructs the first and second tower from full viewm depending on where you take the photo from. The rythem of the 3 towers is being distrupted unnecessarily. Further, the low-rise convention centre at the extreme right occupies a much bigger(longer) piece of the cluster. With a view from the left, you'd be left with too much space on the right of the photo. The composition becomes unbalanced. MBS was designed to be a cluster of buildings, hence the challenge is to photograph it in a way which reveals this design intention. I would still have gone for a head-on shot of this MBS from somewhere in front of One Fullerton, which is much further right of where these photos were taken to get a clearer separation between the buildings and obtain more balanced compositions.

    The over-exposed night lights was partly due to the lack of knowledge in photography and partly due to the timing which the photo was taken. The night lights had become too contrasty with the surrounding context so the highlights would probably be clipped even if you knew how to use the camera properly.

    If you were using a DSLR, adjusting the ISO setting will have no effect on what you see in the viewfinder(VF) unless what you really meant was liveview with the LCD panel. When you are in bulb mode, the timer will only activate the shutter momentarily and not keep it open for the intended period of time. You'll need a remote release if you use bulb. Further, if its only 2 secs, you can use manual mode instead of bulb. Its good to experiment but I feel you are experimenting blindly due to the lack of technical knowledge. You really have to get familiarised with the technicalities e.g. shutter speed, aperture, ISO, etc. If you experiment with some knowledge, your learning curve will be milder and more efficient.

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    he night lights had become too contrasty with the surrounding context so the highlights would probably be clipped even if you knew how to use the camera properly.
    kit, just asking. would doing a high dynamic range help in this occasion? i'm still trying to have a ebtter grasp of hdr and how it could be used, so hijack a bit

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    Hi Kit, thank you for your comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    Why have you chosed to take the photo from where you are? Was ot because you happened to be there? Or do you think you could work out a composition with potential at that location? Truth be told, the composition is messy and incomplete at the same time.

    => I agreed with you on the composition, I was trying to capture the MBS and also the special lighting on top of the Convention Center, hence it is a piece of messy picture taken

    First, the structure in the foreground is a major major letdown, its distracting and takes attention away from your intended subject ( which I presumed was MBS). Ever since the museum took shape, the design and proportion of it is totally detached from the rest of the buildings in the MBS cluster. Hence placing the museum closer to the frame actually amplifies this uncomfortable fit and obstructs the first and second tower from full viewm depending on where you take the photo from. The rythem of the 3 towers is being distrupted unnecessarily. Further, the low-rise convention centre at the extreme right occupies a much bigger(longer) piece of the cluster. With a view from the left, you'd be left with too much space on the right of the photo. The composition becomes unbalanced. MBS was designed to be a cluster of buildings, hence the challenge is to photograph it in a way which reveals this design intention. I would still have gone for a head-on shot of this MBS from somewhere in front of One Fullerton, which is much further right of where these photos were taken to get a clearer separation between the buildings and obtain more balanced compositions.

    => Noted and will work towards that.

    The over-exposed night lights was partly due to the lack of knowledge in photography and partly due to the timing which the photo was taken. The night lights had become too contrasty with the surrounding context so the highlights would probably be clipped even if you knew how to use the camera properly.

    => It was my first chapter of knowledge in photography I will not be defeated but to excel in time.

    If you were using a DSLR, adjusting the ISO setting will have no effect on what you see in the viewfinder(VF) unless what you really meant was liveview with the LCD panel. When you are in bulb mode, the timer will only activate the shutter momentarily and not keep it open for the intended period of time. You'll need a remote release if you use bulb. Further, if its only 2 secs, you can use manual mode instead of bulb. Its good to experiment but I feel you are experimenting blindly due to the lack of technical knowledge. You really have to get familiarised with the technicalities e.g. shutter speed, aperture, ISO, etc. If you experiment with some knowledge, your learning curve will be milder and more efficient.
    => I read from books and magazine regarding the 3 factors, Apecture, ISO and Shutter Speed, but honestly I am still lost. If there were only an Angel that would guide me, that would make things perfect Actually, i found the 2 secs timer is of no use, it is not as if I release the button, it will shoot after 2 secs. So actually I think without timer, it is still okay, correct me if my understanding is wrong on this.
    As I was told to use BULB mode, ISO 100 and F10 to take fireworks, I was trying to use the same method but increase the ISO to 1000 due to 100 is too dark on the LCD Panel.
    I am going for Canon Course this coming Friday, with all this error, at least I know what to ask during the course, rather than sitting down there and listen to the instructer without any knowledge. I will be able to ask those question from all this experiment.

    Thanks again for your time, do advice me more and I really appreciate

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    Between the reason I was at that position was to take the Fireworks


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