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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiolee View Post
    i would never ever sell away 70-200 2.8 lol. 70-300 is only good at bright day light, otherwise, u'll need to pump too much iso to compensate, even at cloudy day.
    D7000 l N24-70 F2.8 l N70-200 F2.8 VR II l SB900
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    Ha..Ha. I understand.
    As shown in BaggioLee signature, his choice of lenses are actually The Best Lenses for Everyday Photography.

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    Happy New Year to all..

    Thanks for all the suggestion mates.
    I think that to have a 24-70 would be wonderfully perfect but I feel that the weight is really going to kill me.
    Its been really fun with my 50mm f1.4G so light and I think that I might be considering another prime lens.
    I am not a pro and Im not doing photography for business (just for me and my family) so I feel in terms of which lens is sharper is really not necessary but of course not to that extend and I also feel the need of the new f1.4G is also not necessary.
    I am now considering the 35mm f2D or the 24mm f2.8D.
    Anyone have any experienced with either of this lenses?
    To me its quite cheap that I can actually get both of these primes (or rather only one of them) rather than getting a 24-70mm f2.8 or the 16-35mm f4 (imo).
    Then my gears will be 24mm f2.8D, 35mm f2D (either one or both), 50mm f1.4G and 70-200mm f2.8 VR1.
    Last edited by xintothezonex; 1st January 2011 at 01:59 PM.

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    You can skip the 35mm IMHO

    Just take 1 physical step, with your 24mm, and you will end up with a similar "crop"...

    On the longer end, look at the 85/105, and then the 180 or 200 range...

    That way, you only need 4 primes in total, and you're good to go everywhere !!


    Lastly, concentrate on the skill, and let the lens ONLY be your tool to achieve it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by michael chick View Post
    You can skip the 35mm IMHO
    Just take 1 physical step, with your 24mm, and you will end up with a similar "crop"...
    Hi Michael,

    What do you mean by similiar crop? Can you explain?

    Quote Originally Posted by michael chick View Post
    Lastly, concentrate on the skill, and let the lens ONLY be your tool to achieve it.
    Happy Shooting and Cheers
    Thanks. That is why I dont want to commit myself getting an expensive lens. Hopefully just one lens for me to shoot my family pics and one for landscapes.

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    Similar crop means that it will show you "exactly" the same image. Move one step closer, and it's like using a longer focal length. Move one step backward, and it's like using a wider lens.

    So if you took a photo with a 24mm, and another with a 35mm, and you took the one taken by the 24mm and cropped it to the same "edge" of the 35mm in photoshop, it will more or less approximate the the one taken by the 35mm.

    BUT, you cannot do it the other way.. understand now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael chick View Post
    Similar crop means that it will show you "exactly" the same image. Move one step closer, and it's like using a longer focal length. Move one step backward, and it's like using a wider lens.

    Not "exactly". Perspective will be different.


    Quote Originally Posted by michael chick View Post
    more or less approximate
    Last edited by GeeWhiz; 1st January 2011 at 02:59 PM.

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    @geewhiz.
    You are right. My Bad.

    However, also try mounting the camera on a tripod, and shoot with different lenses... You will understand what I mean.
    Alternatively, try shooting with a zoom lens, with the camera on a tripod, and start zooming in, while shooting at various focal lengths.
    From the same position, using longer focal lengths will be like "cropping" the image...
    Last edited by michael chick; 2nd January 2011 at 12:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xintothezonex View Post
    Thanks. That is why I dont want to commit myself getting an expensive lens. Hopefully just one lens for me to shoot my family pics and one for landscapes.
    TS, haven't decided yet, have u ?

    One lens for family pics: your current AFS 50mm 1.4G together with D700 should be your main lens.

    One lens for landscape pics: if price is not an issue for you, go to 24mm f/1.4.
    Alternatively, the lightweight 24-120 f/4 VR could be considered. At 24mm length, it is wide enough for landscapes and also sharp at f/4.
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    How old is the baby?

    TS might want to consider 60mm f/2.8 Macro lenses too. For real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff7id View Post
    TS, haven't decided yet, have u ?

    One lens for family pics: your current AFS 50mm 1.4G together with D700 should be your main lens.

    One lens for landscape pics: if price is not an issue for you, go to 24mm f/1.4.
    Alternatively, the lightweight 24-120 f/4 VR could be considered. At 24mm length, it is wide enough for landscapes and also sharp at f/4.
    I still have not decided but was actually looking at the 35mm f2D or the 24mm f2.8D. Anyone think its a gd lens?
    Reviews said that the 24mm f2.8D is crappy but 35mm f2D is ok.
    I dont think I can buy the 24mm f1.4G unless I managed to sell of my 70-200mm f2.8 VR1.

    Quote Originally Posted by aspenx View Post
    How old is the baby?

    TS might want to consider 60mm f/2.8 Macro lenses too. For real.
    My baby is already 4mnths old today. I have decided my 50mm is enough for my family shots so all I need is a wide angle lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xintothezonex View Post
    I still have not decided but was actually looking at the 35mm f2D or the 24mm f2.8D. Anyone think its a gd lens?
    Reviews said that the 24mm f2.8D is crappy but 35mm f2D is ok.
    I dont think I can buy the 24mm f1.4G unless I managed to sell of my 70-200mm f2.8 VR1.

    My baby is already 4mnths old today. I have decided my 50mm is enough for my family shots so all I need is a wide angle lens.

    Not sure which review(s) you referring to but I think the 24mm f2.8 should be an excellent lens thats suitable especially since you mentioned you wanted wide-angle, shooting landscapes & price is a consideration. Of course 24mm f1.4 the best but so is the price.

    If you already have 50mm, 35mm is too close to make a real difference. If I have the D700, I wont hesitate for a moment to get this 24mm f2.8. A review here of the lens if you trust it http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24mm-f28-afd.htm If you dont need a zoom, this prime lens is quite ideal & quote "This 24mm f/2.8 is sharper than the $1,850 14-24mm AF-S at 24mm. It is as sharp as the $1,800 24-70mm AF-S at 24mm, and this compact fixed 24mm lens also has far less distortion than the 24-70mm" unquote.
    Last edited by s1221ljc; 2nd January 2011 at 08:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s1221ljc View Post
    Not sure which review(s) you referring to but I think the 24mm f2.8 should be an excellent lens thats suitable especially since you mentioned you wanted wide-angle, shooting landscapes & price is a consideration. Of course 24mm f1.4 the best but so is the price.

    If you already have 50mm, 35mm is too close to make a real difference. If I have the D700, I wont hesitate for a moment to get this 24mm f2.8. A review here of the lens if you trust it http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24mm-f28-afd.htm If you dont need a zoom, this prime lens is quite ideal & quote "This 24mm f/2.8 is sharper than the $1,850 14-24mm AF-S at 24mm. It is as sharp as the $1,800 24-70mm AF-S at 24mm, and this compact fixed 24mm lens also has far less distortion than the 24-70mm" unquote.

    theoretically, given this prime 24mm price tag, it should be sharper than any of the trinity zooms lens by some margins, if not it defeats the purpose of being a prime .

    btw, this 24mm has a inferior built (plastic barrel) and using micro motor if i'm not wrong. anyway, it's an awesome lens to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xintothezonex View Post
    I still have not decided but was actually looking at the 35mm f2D or the 24mm f2.8D. Anyone think its a gd lens?
    Reviews said that the 24mm f2.8D is crappy but 35mm f2D is ok.
    I dont think I can buy the 24mm f1.4G unless I managed to sell of my 70-200mm f2.8 VR1.

    My baby is already 4mnths old today. I have decided my 50mm is enough for my family shots so all I need is a wide angle lens.
    Nikon Full Frame AF-S/AF-D Prime lenses available in market
    - 24mm f/1.4 or 24mm f/2.8
    - 35mm f/2
    - 50 mm f/1.4 or 50mm f/1.8
    - 85mm f/1.4 or 85mm f/1.8
    - 105mm f/2 DC or 105mm f/2.8 VR Macro
    - 135mm f/2 DC

    Although Nikon has SIX (6) independent prime lenses to cover the range from 24mm to 135mm, that doesn't mean that you need to purchase them all.

    If you are taking the path of 50mm (note you have already owned this lens), the next lenses should be:
    24mm - 50mm - 105mm

    Or if you are taking the path of 85mm, the next lenses should be:
    35mm - 85mm - 135mm

    I don't see any advantage of having 50mm and 35mm together. It's only few step forwards or backwards indeed.

    Or just purchase the 24-120 f/4 VR to cover the range from 24 to 120 mm
    Last edited by jeff7id; 2nd January 2011 at 08:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1221ljc View Post
    Not sure which review(s) you referring to but I think the 24mm f2.8 should be an excellent lens thats suitable especially since you mentioned you wanted wide-angle, shooting landscapes & price is a consideration. Of course 24mm f1.4 the best but so is the price.

    If you already have 50mm, 35mm is too close to make a real difference. If I have the D700, I wont hesitate for a moment to get this 24mm f2.8. A review here of the lens if you trust it http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24mm-f28-afd.htm If you dont need a zoom, this prime lens is quite ideal & quote "This 24mm f/2.8 is sharper than the $1,850 14-24mm AF-S at 24mm. It is as sharp as the $1,800 24-70mm AF-S at 24mm, and this compact fixed 24mm lens also has far less distortion than the 24-70mm" unquote.
    I have read the review from kenrockwell.com but there is this video saying otherwise.
    Its in the youtube.

    Quote Originally Posted by baggiolee View Post
    theoretically, given this prime 24mm price tag, it should be sharper than any of the trinity zooms lens by some margins, if not it defeats the purpose of being a prime .

    btw, this 24mm has a inferior built (plastic barrel) and using micro motor if i'm not wrong. anyway, it's an awesome lens to have.
    Yeah, its made in plastic but for the price, I'm not complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xintothezonex View Post
    I have read the review from kenrockwell.com but there is this video saying otherwise.
    Its in the youtube.

    i believe likiwiguy is a more reliable source. even though he's quite harsh on most of the consumer lens.

    Yeah, its made in plastic but for the price, I'm not complaining.

    my bad...i'm refering to the $3000 24mm f2.8g.
    Last edited by baggiolee; 3rd January 2011 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogwai View Post
    my fave primes are 35mm and 85mm. now both 1.4 and for travels and walkabouts, i tend to use these more often. (consider the 35/2 paired with 85/1.8 if weight is really an issue. they are cheaper, lighter and very very good).

    but i won't sell my 24-70 because i find it's still the most versatile for events (i don't shoot professionally - i meant for friends n family). depending on situation (lighting/ size of place etc), i couple 24-70 with either a f1.4 lens or 17-35/2.8.

    yups, it's heavy cos a 28-105 or 24-120 will give better coverage with less mass. but when i browse the pics after that, i know the extra grams are worth it.
    you spoke my mind. this is exactly what I do. I would definitely recommend the 24-70 for everyday use. true, it is interesting and challenging to shoot with primes, but i'd go with the versatility of the 24-70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiolee View Post
    theoretically, given this prime 24mm price tag, it should be sharper than any of the trinity zooms lens by some margins, if not it defeats the purpose of being a prime .

    btw, this 24mm has a inferior built (plastic barrel) and using micro motor if i'm not wrong. anyway, it's an awesome lens to have.
    Yep, its sharper, but only just. Eg vs the 24-70. But then not much use leh..... people get it for the DOF + bokeh effect. You can see the diff in distortion (corner) plus vignetting

    http://www.the-digital-picture.com/r...omp=0&Lens=618

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    Nikon also has the 16-85mm which I heard is a pretty sharp lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2100 View Post
    Yep, its sharper, but only just. Eg vs the 24-70. But then not much use leh..... people get it for the DOF + bokeh effect. You can see the diff in distortion (corner) plus vignetting

    http://www.the-digital-picture.com/r...omp=0&Lens=618
    yeah...pro prime lens are still the ultimate lens, but i still don't know why a simpler constructed prime (24mm f2.8g) can cost 3k.
    Last edited by baggiolee; 3rd January 2011 at 09:51 PM.

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    I love my 24 70 f2.8 even though it heavy but considering its range, built, and its sharpness is more than enough for me.

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