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Old 5th July 2004   #1
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Default D1x 2nd hand pricings... anione knows ?

whats is the current 2nd/3rd hand pricing for D1x ?? anyone here knows ? and where might be getting them ??

whats the different for the buffer upgrades ??
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4000++ bucks

buffer upgrade..dunno. can go dpreview n read
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hmmmmm... 4k ? i think abit impossible.. cuz i saw a D2h 2nd hand at peninsular plaza selling at $4k.... hhahahaha.... and in like new condition lehz... hahahhahahahha
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Originally Posted by glennyong
hmmmmm... 4k ? i think abit impossible.. cuz i saw a D2h 2nd hand at peninsular plaza selling at $4k.... hhahahaha.... and in like new condition lehz... hahahhahahahha
Do you know that D2H and D1X camera is of different class?
But both are good cams.
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Hi Glen,

I just sold my D1x for 4.2k with accessories and buffer upgrade. Probably less accessories and buffer it can be a bit lower. Why the difference in price for D2h and D1x is that the D2h brand new price is 5k plus whereas the D1x brand new price was 7.5k

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which means, for the 1k diff, might as well get d2h
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Originally Posted by clive
which means, for the 1k diff, might as well get d2h
Not really, it depends on needs. If one don't need the 8fps, one can "save" the 1k difference.
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Originally Posted by clive
which means, for the 1k diff, might as well get d2h
Clive, you a Nikon user? Have you used both bodies before? It would be best, if you could elaborate the pro and cons? Is it justifiable for the extra $1K.
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I don't know about any high end cameras, but I think if they don't have internal flash, they shouldn't be on sale!!!




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Originally Posted by espn
I don't know about any high end cameras, but I think if they don't have internal flash, they shouldn't be on sale!!!
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Oh yeah..according to a local Newspaper komputer Time comments - Its too bad that the "professional" camera doesn't come with a built-in flash.
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actually 1000 bucks diff is more or less "the max diff" i can tolerate already...hehe! d1x vs d2h..both are more or less the same thing 2me...image quality,handling, etc...all very good already...the main diff i feel will be

-the extra AF points (which is a good rival to EOS 45pt AF) and
-the higher fps and
-the d2h's ability to do highspeed sync on the spot(d1x has x-sync =1/500 and to do highspeed sync must use manual flash which takes time). doing high speed sync on the spot is a gd thing for event shooters under everchanging light conditions (eg cosplay, funkamania, disco, stage, catwalk...)

but like what espn said about not having built in flash ( ) my real gripe is still the nikon thumbpad...makes my poor thumb cry out in pain
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for the 1k different, you got not only the extra features in D2h but also it is a brand new set with 1 year Nikon warranty. For such an expensive item, I will go for the Dh, unless if D1x = 3~3.5k.
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Originally Posted by clive
actually 1000 bucks diff is more or less "the max diff" i can tolerate already...hehe! d1x vs d2h..both are more or less the same thing 2me...image quality,handling, etc...all very good already...the main diff i feel will be

-the extra AF points (which is a good rival to EOS 45pt AF) and
-the higher fps and
-the d2h's ability to do highspeed sync on the spot(d1x has x-sync =1/500 and to do highspeed sync must use manual flash which takes time). doing high speed sync on the spot is a gd thing for event shooters under everchanging light conditions (eg cosplay, funkamania, disco, stage, catwalk...)

but like what espn said about not having built in flash ( ) my real gripe is still the nikon thumbpad...makes my poor thumb cry out in pain
Agreed, the extra AF points is good to have, but not a must.
As what have been mentioned its a different class of camera, the D2H is designed for photojournalist/sport shooters to meet their needs/wants.

but what you mean if doing high speed sync on the spot is a gd thing for event shooters under everchanging light conditions (eg cosplay, funkamania, disco, stage, catwalk...)?

Care to elaborate?
AFAIK, a decent 1/125s or even 1/250s is more than enough to freeze the action. but then again, under everchanging light condition, can you tell me which system are fool proof? When under such condition, ppls will switch to manual to shoot! Maybe you have a superior flash system which I'm not aware of.

One more thing, when shooting events such as wedding, ROM, etc, we dun go for high speed sync, what we want is to freeze the subject with flash, but with good ambients lighting included, so high speed syn will not be that useful! But then again, it depends on your needs! For sport photography, it will be useful.

Hope I don't misinterpreted you ans, maybe you should elaborate further/explain.

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Originally Posted by Kho King
for the 1k different, you got not only the extra features in D2h but also it is a brand new set with 1 year Nikon warranty. For such an expensive item, I will go for the Dh, unless if D1x = 3~3.5k.
Yes and No, depending on your needs.
But then again, D1X for 3-3.5k, you will hardly find such cam at this pricing now.
. good luck!
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Originally Posted by glennyong
hmmmmm... 4k ? i think abit impossible.. cuz i saw a D2h 2nd hand at peninsular plaza selling at $4k.... hhahahaha.... and in like new condition lehz... hahahhahahahha
which shop is that? $4k firm? or high $4k?
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actually, it's not really common knowledge, but D1x can produce very very smooth 10MP images from RAW. that's right - ten megapixels. the D1x users will know what i'm talking about. you can't beat that with the D2H, which is built for an entirely different user group. shadow details on D1x still beats D2H too.

so personally, given the price diff, i'd still pick a D1x over D2H anyday. the upcoming D2x is another matter entirely of course...
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Originally Posted by Larry
actually, it's not really common knowledge, but D1x can produce very very smooth 10MP images from RAW. that's right - ten megapixels. the D1x users will know what i'm talking about. you can't beat that with the D2H, which is built for an entirely different user group. shadow details on D1x still beats D2H too.

so personally, given the price diff, i'd still pick a D1x over D2H anyday. the upcoming D2x is another matter entirely of course...
Yup, I seconded that, i'd still pick a D1x over D2H for my needs.
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oh paiseh..mmm..more details abotu the high-speed flash sync issue:

the method i use to shoot fast moving lowlight event (cosplay,funkamania,catwalk, etc) is ISO 400 or 800, aperture priority and 90% of the time using f2.8 , soemtimes f4.

ie the remaining variable left will be: the shutter speed.
bcoz during the event, the lighting can at times suddenly be v dim and suddenly be very bright spotlight or sometimes a period of flashing lights.. (ie more or less unpredictable even thou we can predict the lighting changes at other times during the show) so the shutter speed can fluctuate between say 2 sec to 1/1000 and then suddenly to 1/60 that kind of scenario...and usually i will be pre-occupied with tryign to compose the moving subject as best as possible => virtually impossible to care about the instantaneous shutter speed already if i take a split second to look at the shutter speed indicated in the viewfinder to check whether it exceeds x-sync speed, the moving subject's instantaneous posture may be gone forever already => ie my conclusion is to place priority on composition, and let the enabling of high-speed-sync allow me to fire the shutter @ more than x-sync-speed as and when necessary...it would be a waste if say inthe viewfinder, u saw a good scene with good instantaneous composition but can't trigger the shutter and then realise that the shutter speed is blinking due to exceeding x-speed coz the camera set-up doesnt enable highsped sync ;-)

but yupz..agreed that such fast changing lighting events is not always the case; most events have uniform bright-enough lighting so usually, 1/125 or 1/250 can do the job already.
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I am not a Nikon user but incidentally asked TCW how much is the brand new D2H? They are selling at $4,800 with 1 year shop warranty. There were 4 sets when I enquired 2 weeks ago. I guess that they would have sold them out by now given that it's below the market price.
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Originally Posted by USM
I am not a Nikon user but incidentally asked TCW how much is the brand new D2H? They are selling at $4,800 with 1 year shop warranty. There were 4 sets when I enquired 2 weeks ago. I guess that they would have sold them out by now given that it's below the market price.
Those are grey sets (parallel imports).
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