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    There are some shots I took with the big stopper that shows a red band. This went straight to the bin but am curious if anyone knows what that is, and how to avoid it? It doesn't appear in every picture.

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    Default Re: [Comparison] LEE Big Stopper vs B+W ND110

    Quote Originally Posted by acpical View Post
    There are some shots I took with the big stopper that shows a red band. This went straight to the bin but am curious if anyone knows what that is, and how to avoid it? It doesn't appear in every picture.

    Light leakage.. Did u cover ur viewfinder in LE?

    It has nth to do wif the ND filter , rather lights seeping into the viewfinder n wreck havou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numnumball View Post
    Light leakage.. Did u cover ur viewfinder in LE?

    It has nth to do wif the ND filter , rather lights seeping into the viewfinder n wreck havou
    Could have been from the distance scale window also if you have a distance scale window... even the 24-70 has been shown to give some light leakage.

    And the big stopper comes with some foam sides... did you accidentally leave a a little opening?

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    hmm...imo you should have corrected your white balance prior to putting on the filters. That way it will accurately show how the filters affects the white balance (under the exact same WB values), rather than putting it on first and setting WB to auto, which the camera adjusted by itself and the values will be different for both filters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by torak View Post
    hmm...imo you should have corrected your white balance prior to putting on the filters. That way it will accurately show how the filters affects the white balance (under the exact same WB values), rather than putting it on first and setting WB to auto, which the camera adjusted by itself and the values will be different for both filters...
    he is shooting in raw... i thought it wont matter?
    not too sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenleonhart View Post
    he is shooting in raw... i thought it wont matter?
    not too sure
    yup shooting in raw doesnt matter, since u can change WB in post processing.

    However what i mean is that since he is doing a review on how the 2 filters affects the temperature of the photos, by setting a fixed and corrected white balance prior to using the lens, it will more accurately show how the filters affects white balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torak View Post
    yup shooting in raw doesnt matter, since u can change WB in post processing.

    However what i mean is that since he is doing a review on how the 2 filters affects the temperature of the photos, by setting a fixed and corrected white balance prior to using the lens, it will more accurately show how the filters affects white balance.
    Thanks for your comments.

    Why I use Auto WB because all these while, I have tried Auto WB and it is giving me the best results for B+W ND110.

    As to why am I using B+W ND110 as the reference is because, so far, in comparing those 10 Stop ND filter (I used to owe a Hoya ND400), I find that with Auto WB and with B+W ND110, the colour cast is close to neutral.

    Since I shoot in RAW, I can adjust to the colour temperature when needed.

    Will post the photos when I got time.
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    The TS wanted some feedback/ review on Hoya NDx400? Mine give me a blue cast, deeper than your Big Stopper, and it has a hint of green, making it almost purple. Very hard to correct. Whenever I shoot with NDx400, I would take another shot without, just to get the correct colour, and then use PhotoShop's Match Colour to replace the colour of the NDx400's shot.
    Looking at your comparison, I can appreciate the appeal of the ND110. It is a pain each time I shoot with NDx400, just thinking about the colour correction I have to do later. The ND110 is almost spot on, so easy. But yes, I have seen some other post where the Big Stopper produce very good results, of course the post did not mention if colour correction as part of the work flow. I hope Hazmee's letter works, and LEE to pull their socks up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numnumball View Post
    Light leakage.. Did u cover ur viewfinder in LE?

    It has nth to do wif the ND filter , rather lights seeping into the viewfinder n wreck havou
    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Could have been from the distance scale window also if you have a distance scale window... even the 24-70 has been shown to give some light leakage.

    And the big stopper comes with some foam sides... did you accidentally leave a a little opening?
    Oops...forgot about covering the window and viewfinder. Will do so next time. Thanks for the tip!

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    Default Re: [Comparison] LEE Big Stopper vs B+W ND110

    My Big Stopper also have a bluish cast. Since all my shots were in RAW, I went back to all of them, corrected the WB to 9040K, all the warm tones came right back.

    The next question I'd like to ask is - is it possible to preset the WB (to 9040K) first before shooting it with the Lee? If it's possible, then using the Lee is just that extra step... Will try when I get the chance.

    No problem with the Lee, probably just required some fine tuning (like all import cars to get that extra zoom zoom for your bucks )
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    My Big Stopper also have a bluish cast. Since all my shots were in RAW, I went back to all of them, corrected the WB to 9040K, all the warm tones came right back.

    The next question I'd like to ask is - is it possible to preset the WB (to 9040K) first before shooting it with the Lee? If it's possible, then using the Lee is just that extra step... Will try when I get the chance.

    No problem with the Lee, probably just required some fine tuning (like all import cars to get that extra zoom zoom for your bucks )
    IIRC, the semi-pro bodies from canon and nikon allow for users to dial in the custom WB values. i know the pro-bodies like 1D-series and D2/3-series can.
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    Thanks alot for the review! Its very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightwolf75 View Post
    IIRC, the semi-pro bodies from canon and nikon allow for users to dial in the custom WB values. i know the pro-bodies like 1D-series and D2/3-series can.
    Yes, I'm using a D90 currently. And yes, you can use custom WB with this model. My point of asking is, should we just shoot it first using Auto WB, then PP later to bring the warm tones up to speed? Or is it better to customise the WB on the DSLR first before shooting? What are the pros and cons of doing either? At the moment, I can think of none... Maybe the more experienced can chip in with their knowledge...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Yes, I'm using a D90 currently. And yes, you can use custom WB with this model. My point of asking is, should we just shoot it first using Auto WB, then PP later to bring the warm tones up to speed? Or is it better to customise the WB on the DSLR first before shooting? What are the pros and cons of doing either? At the moment, I can think of none... Maybe the more experienced can chip in with their knowledge...
    if ur shooting raw, it doesnt matter i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Yes, I'm using a D90 currently. And yes, you can use custom WB with this model. My point of asking is, should we just shoot it first using Auto WB, then PP later to bring the warm tones up to speed? Or is it better to customise the WB on the DSLR first before shooting? What are the pros and cons of doing either? At the moment, I can think of none... Maybe the more experienced can chip in with their knowledge...
    haha... age old problem. personally, i prefer to get it right in camera then to photoshop later.

    if you are shooting RAW like francis247, perhaps u can stick with AWB and adjust later to suit your preference. in fact, if you are shooting in RAW and using custom WB, doesn't really matter cos you can still adjust. but, if you are like me shooting JPGs most of the time, then getting it right in camera saves you a lot of headaches later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allenleonhart View Post
    if ur shooting raw, it doesnt matter i guess
    Well, true... But the point I'm asking is, maybe it is better to fine tune the WB first before shooting? That way you can gauge if you've truthfully captured the colours of the scene. If you wait to PP later, you might have already forgotten what it looks like, unless you managed to shoot a few before or after you've slapped the Big Stopper on for comparison sake...

    Then again, maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill once again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightwolf75 View Post
    haha... age old problem. personally, i prefer to get it right in camera then to photoshop later.

    if you are shooting RAW like francis247, perhaps u can stick with AWB and adjust later to suit your preference. in fact, if you are shooting in RAW and using custom WB, doesn't really matter cos you can still adjust. but, if you are like me shooting JPGs most of the time, then getting it right in camera saves you a lot of headaches later.
    Thanks for your opinion. For jpegs, it would save much headache to fine tune first. I guess I'd really need to try this for myself to see which is the better alternative...
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    Default Re: [Comparison] LEE Big Stopper vs B+W ND110

    There is a reason why I use Auto WB instead of setting the WB straight upfront.

    I usually shoot in RAW for landscape and using Auto WB allows for one additional WB to play with.

    If you set to Custom from the start, you will not know how your camera will react to the filters.
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    Default Re: [Comparison] LEE Big Stopper vs B+W ND110

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis247 View Post
    There is a reason why I use Auto WB instead of setting the WB straight upfront.

    I usually shoot in RAW for landscape and using Auto WB allows for one additional WB to play with.

    If you set to Custom from the start, you will not know how your camera will react to the filters.
    You're probably right. But I'm also curious to know how the custom WB will affect the coolness of the Big Stopper... Will just have to give it a try one day... Worse comes to worst, it doesn't work and one will just have to fall back on Auto WB... The testing will benefit those who have the habit of shooting in jpeg as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numnumball View Post
    Light leakage.. Did u cover ur viewfinder in LE?

    It has nth to do wif the ND filter , rather lights seeping into the viewfinder n wreck havou
    Hi there, can users of LEE big stopper clarify if it is necessary to cover the viewfinder? If i remembered correctly I read from somewhere that since the mirror flips up during the shot, there will be no light coming in from the viewfinder. I think there had been previous posts related to this but not sure if there was any conclusion .

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    My Big Stopper also have a bluish cast. Since all my shots were in RAW, I went back to all of them, corrected the WB to 9040K, all the warm tones came right back.

    The next question I'd like to ask is - is it possible to preset the WB (to 9040K) first before shooting it with the Lee? If it's possible, then using the Lee is just that extra step... Will try when I get the chance.

    No problem with the Lee, probably just required some fine tuning (like all import cars to get that extra zoom zoom for your bucks )
    Yes you can custom preset your WB but I'm not sure if the amount of adjustment is the same for different scenes.

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