Filter for D70 kit lens

Ajit · 1st July 2004

Hi,

If I want to buy a filter just to protect the "AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED " lens, shall I go for a UV filter or Skylight one. Which will have the least impact on the picture, f stops etc......

Thanks.

Dennis · 1st July 2004

I would have the UV ones.

Originally Posted by Ajit

Hi,

If I want to buy a filter just to protect the "AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED " lens, shall I go for a UV filter or Skylight one. Which will have the least impact on the picture, f stops etc......

Thanks.

deadpixel · 1st July 2004

For protection, just go with either the UV or an HMC.

UV, Skylight and HMC filters are clear so do not affect the f-stop. Skylight filters have a slight pink cast to them and will affect the color of your shots.

What you need to be concerned about isn't the impact on the f-stops but the overall quality of your images and vignetting if you buy cheap filters.

Originally Posted by Ajit

Hi,

If I want to buy a filter just to protect the "AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED " lens, shall I go for a UV filter or Skylight one. Which will have the least impact on the picture, f stops etc......

Thanks.

ndroo · 1st July 2004

Originally Posted by deadpixel

For protection, just go with either the UV or an HMC.

UV, Skylight and HMC filters are clear so do not affect the f-stop. Skylight filters have a slight pink cast to them and will affect the color of your shots.

What you need to be concerned about isn't the impact on the f-stops but the overall quality of your images and vignetting if you buy cheap filters.

HMC filter? If I am not wrong, HMC is just a different grading (better grade) for Hoya filters rite?

quekky · 1st July 2004

just go for the B+W MRC, only cost $60+ and u wun regret it

deadpixel · 1st July 2004

Originally Posted by quekky

just go for the B+W MRC, only cost $60+ and u wun regret it

Agreed. The B+W MRC is really good. Just got one myself and ditched a cheap filter that AP palmed off on me.

roygoh · 1st July 2004

Originally Posted by deadpixel

Agreed. The B+W MRC is really good. Just got one myself and ditched a cheap filter that AP palmed off on me.

Can you share what improvements you saw by switching to B+W from the cheap filter? Less vignetting? Better image (in what sense)?

Do you have images straight off the camera that can demonstrate the improvement?

I am using a Hoya UV-Guard on my 18-70mm and would like to know what I am missing by not using a better grade filter.

Thanks!

Roy

deadpixel · 2nd July 2004

I'm comparing this to the cheapo Tokina filter that I had to get in a hurry, so a good Hoya filter may give you good value for money results too.

Compared to the Tokina, there's a little less vignetting experienced with this filter when the lens is at its widest angle and aperture, but if you shoot in RAW and have NC 4.1, you'd be able to use the Vignette Control feature to remove the problem.

The overall appearence of the colors in the photos also appear a little clearer though (to be fair) it may be due to different weather and lighting conditions, however, I'm pretty sure it is not. I'll have to find some time to do a few test shots with similar subjects and conditions.

Originally Posted by roygoh

Can you share what improvements you saw by switching to B+W from the cheap filter? Less vignetting? Better image (in what sense)?

Do you have images straight off the camera that can demonstrate the improvement?

I am using a Hoya UV-Guard on my 18-70mm and would like to know what I am missing by not using a better grade filter.

Thanks!

Roy

roygoh · 2nd July 2004

Thanks for the info! Looking forward to see some comparison shots from you.

- Roy

Ajit · 2nd July 2004

Hi Guys,

I was quoted $68 for Hoya UV Pro 1 and $85 for the B+W UV filter...... Are these prices ok ? For the normal Hoya UV filter, they mentioned that it's available for $35-40......

espn · 2nd July 2004

Go for the B+W. $85's a bit too ex I think, where did you get the quotes from?

Ajit · 2nd July 2004

John 3:15 at Funan quoted me these price...not ready to bargain....

CP, TCW, MS Color have no stock of 67mm filters....

mercurio · 2nd July 2004

Get the Hoya super HMC. There is no visual increase in the
vigneting of the lens (sad to say the lens itself has vignetting at low light wide angle and full (or near full) aperture). Also no color change and metering problem. I got it for $39.6 at M+S.

I also try Hoya $20 UV and the $34 HMC. Both give problems at wide angle, full aperture and low light. For UV, there is color change at angle and low light.

Forget others UV filters.

espn · 2nd July 2004

Originally Posted by Ajit

John 3:15 at Funan quoted me these price...not ready to bargain....
CP, TCW, MS Color have no stock of 67mm filters....

No wonder. The price is a bit too high, I think most have gotten it at about $50-$60? Check the threads.

Originally Posted by mercurio

Get the Hoya super HMC. There is no visual increase in the
vigneting of the lens (sad to say the lens itself has vignetting at low light wide angle and full (or near full) aperture). Also no color change and metering problem. I got it for $39.6 at M+S.

I also try Hoya $20 UV and the $34 HMC. Both give problems at wide angle, full aperture and low light. For UV, there is color change at angle and low light.

Forget others UV filters.

It's not vignetting. Forget other UV? Wanna do a side by side comparison of B+W/Nikon L37C UV on a piece of newspaper?

goering · 2nd July 2004

Originally Posted by roygoh

Thanks for the info! Looking forward to see some comparison shots from you.

- Roy

Comparison shots would probably not show much difference - to be honest.

However, if you take the 2 filters (one cheapo and the other a good one) and place them side by side over something such as a newspaper, you can see that the transmission is better for the good filter. It's not a world of difference but is visible

Since the filter is a permanent attachment, it still makes good sense to have a good filter as you would want to wear a pair of spectacles with very clear vision

deadpixel · 2nd July 2004

$85 for B+W?

They're only asking for S$60 at CP.

Originally Posted by Ajit

Hi Guys,

I was quoted $68 for Hoya UV Pro 1 and $85 for the B+W UV filter...... Are these prices ok ? For the normal Hoya UV filter, they mentioned that it's available for $35-40......

Hewland · 2nd July 2004

Originally Posted by deadpixel

$85 for B+W?

They're only asking for S$60 at CP.

I cheapskate so bought a Hoya

Ajit · 5th July 2004

Looks like all shops are out of stock for 67mm filter. Stock only expected to arrive in mid-July. Have to Shoot without filter till then but i am afraid of damaging the lens (scratches)......
If any one of you have recently bought a 67mm UV filter (Hoya Super HMC / B+W), can you please let me know which shop you got it from and what price.....

Dennis · 5th July 2004

Hi Ajit, TK have B&W ones (Not sure if they also have Hoya), just got one on 2 Jul (Fri) for the 18-70 lens.

Originally Posted by Ajit

Looks like all shops are out of stock for 67mm filter. Stock only expected to arrive in mid-July. Have to Shoot without filter till then but i am afraid of damaging the lens (scratches)......
If any one of you have recently bought a 67mm UV filter (Hoya Super HMC / B+W), can you please let me know which shop you got it from and what price.....

mpenza · 5th July 2004

There's a shop "Alex"(?) on second floor of Peninsula that sells Kenko multicoated 67mm UV filters. He quoted me $25 last I went. not too sure how good they are compared to Hoya HMC though.

1st July 2004	#1
Ajit New Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 28	Filter for D70 kit lens Hi, If I want to buy a filter just to protect the "AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED " lens, shall I go for a UV filter or Skylight one. Which will have the least impact on the picture, f stops etc...... Thanks.

2nd July 2004	#9
roygoh Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northwest Posts: 5,042	Thanks for the info! Looking forward to see some comparison shots from you. - Roy __________________ As complexity rises, precise statements lose meaning and meaningful statements lose precision.

2nd July 2004	#13
mercurio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 70	B+W nt worth it Get the Hoya super HMC. There is no visual increase in the vigneting of the lens (sad to say the lens itself has vignetting at low light wide angle and full (or near full) aperture). Also no color change and metering problem. I got it for $39.6 at M+S. I also try Hoya $20 UV and the $34 HMC. Both give problems at wide angle, full aperture and low light. For UV, there is color change at angle and low light. Forget others UV filters.

1st July 2004	#5
quekky Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: www.irphotography.com Posts: 1,377	just go for the B+W MRC, only cost $60+ and u wun regret it

2nd July 2004	#11
espn Deregistered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Planet Nikon Posts: 22,045	Go for the B+W. $85's a bit too ex I think, where did you get the quotes from?

5th July 2004	#18
Ajit New Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 28	Looks like all shops are out of stock for 67mm filter. Stock only expected to arrive in mid-July. Have to Shoot without filter till then but i am afraid of damaging the lens (scratches)...... If any one of you have recently bought a 67mm UV filter (Hoya Super HMC / B+W), can you please let me know which shop you got it from and what price.....

5th July 2004	#20
mpenza Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,397	There's a shop "Alex"(?) on second floor of Peninsula that sells Kenko multicoated 67mm UV filters. He quoted me $25 last I went. not too sure how good they are compared to Hoya HMC though.