27th June 2004, 09:06 PM
How's the job market now? Many of my friends are leaving the company. Are jobs abundant now? I don't think many companies pay high. How much does a fresh grad get in IT industry? It's amazing how I've been working 6 years and starting pay is lower than when I started.
27th June 2004, 10:16 PM
don't know about Singapore scene, but from the vacancies in the papers here there seems to be more jobs these days.
I've been looking around for a year and half. At the beginning the apllications I sent out didn't even attract a response.
These days at least I've got called for interviews.
Finally started my new job a month and half ago.
Keep looking, keep sending out applications and phoning up job advertisers. Good job only comes to those who work hard to get it.
Those who sit underneath the tree waiting will only get coconuts.
27th June 2004, 10:38 PM
28th June 2004, 07:41 AM
I've been told by others that the fresh university grads are now getting the fresh poly diploma's starting pay and the fresh poly diploma are getting the fresh ITE student's pay. This is for the IT Industry only. And I do think there is some truth in this.
Originally Posted by maddog
28th June 2004, 09:18 AM
I had try to employ a staff since april...
but either over-Q or ask too much $$$ for irrevlant experience.
Or... some don't even know how to type a proper resume...
Or... Some don't know what they are apply... just sent out application without knowing what they are applying..
How to give them job like that....
28th June 2004, 09:23 AM
Ditto. Had the same experience here. Some people apply for a job without even knowing what it is all about. Doesn;t look good to the interviewer.
28th June 2004, 09:24 AM
Some even called up and ask "How much you are paying?"
28th June 2004, 09:46 AM
But now IT industry asking quite a lot out of fresh grads i.e need to know quite number of differnt comp languages. Dun they know that uni only got teach a few basic ones.
28th June 2004, 02:24 PM
When I conduct interviews I only look for good grades, initiative and drive(quite hard to spot and individuals are often deceptive). I think the latter are better traits. Don't really care what the applicant learnt in school as they are about 10yrs behind industry. I also noticed that those with good grades and little else are very bad employees.
28th June 2004, 02:52 PM
28th June 2004, 03:04 PM
3-4 of my colleagues found a new job within 2 months. Since they are leaving, my boss need more guys again. Maddog, if you or your friends are interested to find a new job, PM me.
28th June 2004, 03:12 PM
the technical skills and grades must be there. that will get you to the interview. after that we look for people who have the right mindset. people who are not rigid, can work hard and adapt to change.
Originally Posted by Gabes
28th June 2004, 03:14 PM
With the stepping down of Goh Chok Tong, and the stepping up of Lee Kuan Yew's older son to be PM, how can the economy be worsed than before. Die Die economy must be picked up. But this doesn't mean that the pay also must go up.
Originally Posted by maddog
28th June 2004, 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by jbma
I don't think its unfair for employees to ask how much the job offers. Afterall its a game played by both.
Some companies just wanna hire as cheap as possible, with what they can get. Others set aside a certain budget, and is pretty frank about the pay package.
28th June 2004, 05:16 PM
its only right to ask.
Originally Posted by baobeitan