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    1. in what area is critique to be sought?
    ----The aspect of HDR.
    2. what one hopes to achieve with the piece of work?
    ---- A beautiful image of a landscape
    3. under what circumstance is the picture taken? (physical conditions/emotions)
    ---- When I was testing my friend's kit lens
    4. what the critique seeker personally thinks of the picture
    ----It's beautiful
    cough cough.

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    I'm a newb so don't take this too seriously.

    1. I don't know what you were trying to capture (e.g. Clouds? Architecture of the HDB? Attempt at composition?)

    2. The only thing which looks kinda like HDR would be the trees at the left side of the picture.

    3. I think the horizon is tilted to the right a bit...

    4. I'm not sure why but the top of the photo has a darkening effect. Is it some kind of post process residue? Is it deliberate?

    5. Keep shooting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arikyeo View Post
    From the numbers & data I gathered from reviews, the 18mm end gives more distortion than others, turning it from "negligible" to "Obvious"...
    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    Did the reviews tell you what kind of distortions they were referring to? Are you aware that there are different types of distortions associated with wide angles? Right now, I can tell you that the distortions you see in your photo are not curvilinear distortions i.e. barrel or pin cushion distortions.
    Arik, I can tell you obviously misread or misunderstood a lot of things from your other postings; try not to let all that reading bloat your mind [Quote:" knowledge puffs up but.."]. This is obvious keystone distortion, as you point your lens upwards..but...

    That really is besides the point. Don't shift the blame to your equipment or anything else, side tracking from what the others are saying here. Even if you want to test out HDR techniques, there are no reasons why you shouldn't compose properly. You could have easily taken any other photo of any other scene. That said, both are half-heartedly done, if half at all. I hope that you'll learn in time to differentiate a good photo and a bad photo and apply the same standard to yourself, then only can you improve.

    but i must say, I'm impressed how nullified u are to people's comments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Ang View Post

    but i must say, I'm impressed how nullified u are to people's comments
    make that experienced ppl's comments

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    like i say.

    not all photos had to be HDR-ed.

    please learn how to walk before u fly.

    obviously with your current standard, still too soon to do HDR photos.
    Last edited by sinned79; 12th December 2010 at 11:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arikyeo View Post
    4. what the critique seeker personally thinks of the picture
    ----It's beautiful

    (http://ywchoe.com/)
    Last edited by ismokeweed79; 12th December 2010 at 11:13 PM.

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    ZOMG! i can see my window! lol bukit gombak blk 330? HAHAHAHA! lucky not long long lens..

    anyway my block looks freaky now in hdr -.-"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Ang View Post
    Arik, I can tell you obviously misread or misunderstood a lot of things from your other postings; try not to let all that reading bloat your mind [Quote:" knowledge puffs up but.."]. This is obvious keystone distortion, as you point your lens upwards..but...

    That really is besides the point. Don't shift the blame to your equipment or anything else, side tracking from what the others are saying here. Even if you want to test out HDR techniques, there are no reasons why you shouldn't compose properly. You could have easily taken any other photo of any other scene. That said, both are half-heartedly done, if half at all. I hope that you'll learn in time to differentiate a good photo and a bad photo and apply the same standard to yourself, then only can you improve.

    but i must say, I'm impressed how nullified u are to people's comments
    i can't emphasis how much i agree to this..

    arikyeo, if you put your photograph here, prepare to be criticized, this is the whole idea of having it posted in critique corner, if you only want to accept compliments, this is not the place, at least it is not the place with such lack of effort in taking the photograph (or worse still, choosing which photograph to be posted) and such attitude. even kenrockwell made some decent composition when testing lenses, same goes to dpreview and other sites.

    taking comments from others are part of learning process that does not make you a bad photographer, in fact, it will help you shape up to be a better one.
    on the other hand, disregard and arrogance in accepting critiques from others will make you lose out.
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    Dear TS, i think you should learn to be less defensive when reading critiques. Kit was trying to give you honest advice and opinions. I hope somewhere in life you learn to change your attitude, because this ain't going to work when u go into society and work. Its not your photo that needs critique, it is your attitude in life. Blaming your kitchen space won't work. There are so many restrictions in life are u going to blame all of them? You will never improve as a person if u can't take criticism like a man.

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    Before you can start appreciating criticism from other people, you first need to be your own hardest critic. When you become a self-critic, you open up your mind to other people's comments. This is something absent here. Being so bloody precious about his own work it actually hinders him from moving on and getting better at taking photos.

    I met a group of photographers some months ago and with a handful of outings and critic sessions, they became prolific photographers. They've even started sharing their knowledge with others. As this within a span of 6 months or so and its only possible because they chosed to listen and learn in the process and they continued learning.

    TS is obviously not ready to handle critics, he haven't even started learning yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    Before you can start appreciating criticism from other people, you first need to be your own hardest critic. When you become a self-critic, you open up your mind to other people's comments. This is something absent here. Being so bloody precious about his own work it actually hinders him from moving on and getting better at taking photos.
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    TS is obviously not ready to handle critics, he haven't even started learning yet.
    arikyeo - as a HDR image, it didn't work for me.. as many has said, dont be discouraged.. keep shooting.

    Kit - I will have to take a good enough architectural shot before I can post for your constructive comments.. wait for my picture..ok...
    [Better if you spend time teaching those that are interested in learning ... and that include the quiet majority just reading the thread ]

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    friends - many of the comments on the HDR photo, arikyeo, given by the senior experts are very valid and correct.

    there is really no need to do HDR in this sort of a picture and it is just a snap shot.

    ....but as friends and advisors did we do justice at the emotion and human level - probably not

    reading the posts later: -

    just a feeling I had : senior photographers should be a kind and encouraging and not so crtitical and blunt - after all this man arikyeo has taken a bold step and decided to put out his wares and ask for advice - and reading the comments made me feel that there was a need for a bit more softness and gentleness and human-ness rather than blunt critique and hard comments...just a thought..

    thanks a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by reviveramesh View Post
    friends - many of the comments on the HDR photo, arikyeo, given by the senior experts are very valid and correct.

    there is really no need to do HDR in this sort of a picture and it is just a snap shot.

    ....but as friends and advisors did we do justice at the emotion and human level - probably not

    reading the posts later: -

    just a feeling I had : senior photographers should be a kind and encouraging and not so crtitical and blunt - after all this man arikyeo has taken a bold step and decided to put out his wares and ask for advice - and reading the comments made me feel that there was a need for a bit more softness and gentleness and human-ness rather than blunt critique and hard comments...just a thought..

    thanks a lot
    I am actually happy that everyone is blunt.
    If they were to say "Nice shot!", "Well processed!", then it will be totally hypocritical and whats the point of a critique session.

    No pain, no gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by reviveramesh View Post
    just a feeling I had : senior photographers should be a kind and encouraging and not so crtitical and blunt - after all this man arikyeo has taken a bold step and decided to put out his wares and ask for advice - and reading the comments made me feel that there was a need for a bit more softness and gentleness and human-ness rather than blunt critique and hard comments...just a thought..
    Then before anything else, TS should be upfront about his tolerance level for honest and blunt comments...... talk about a favour being served on a silver platter.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by reviveramesh View Post
    reading the posts later: -

    just a feeling I had : senior photographers should be a kind and encouraging and not so crtitical and blunt - after all this man arikyeo has taken a bold step and decided to put out his wares and ask for advice - and reading the comments made me feel that there was a need for a bit more softness and gentleness and human-ness rather than blunt critique and hard comments...just a thought..

    thanks a lot
    I don't think they are too blunt. Read this post you will understand.

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=66

    Since he is a self proclaim season photographer, he should able to take comments well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leong23 View Post
    I don't think they are too blunt. Read this post you will understand.

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=66

    Since he is a self proclaim season photographer, he should able to take comments well.
    What a joke, even a PnS shooter can get the horizon right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arikyeo View Post
    No, I didn't. I used Photomatix's "3d effect" on the image to patch up the right hand corner which was originally too bright. No, I didn't use GND...

    On closer inspection and scrutiny, the image looks like it has pincushion distortion created using the 18mm end of the kit lens...
    I seldom comment but I thought it would be doing others an injustice not to comment when I saw this post. First of all, this snapshot (I wouldn't even call it a photograph) does not even require the application of HDR. The way you process it, the picture turns out to be sort of, a low-contrast picture. I suppose the original image would already have sufficient dynamic range hence HDR is REDUNDANT. Secondly, like most people have pointed out, whats the point of posting a picture up for critic when you do not even bother about proper composition? Thirdly, oh please do not blame the 18-55mm kit lens, it served me (and I believed many others) perfectly well. The photographer creates the image, not the equipment.
    Last edited by ruikang89; 14th December 2010 at 12:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruikang89 View Post
    I seldom comment but I thought it would be doing others an injustice not to comment when I saw this post. First of all, this snapshot (I wouldn't even call it a photograph) does not even require the application of HDR. I suppose the original image would already have sufficient dynamic range hence HDR is REDUNDANT.
    To be honest, I don't see how you can make that statement unless you were beside TS. Were you there taking exposure readings? Skies can be very blown out.

    Composition, though, is another matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acpical View Post
    To be honest, I don't see how you can make that statement unless you were beside TS. Were you there taking exposure readings? Skies can be very blown out.

    Composition, though, is another matter.
    The flats appear to be not backlited. Well, pardon me I may be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reviveramesh View Post
    friends - many of the comments on the HDR photo, arikyeo, given by the senior experts are very valid and correct.

    there is really no need to do HDR in this sort of a picture and it is just a snap shot.

    ....but as friends and advisors did we do justice at the emotion and human level - probably not

    reading the posts later: -

    just a feeling I had : senior photographers should be a kind and encouraging and not so crtitical and blunt - after all this man arikyeo has taken a bold step and decided to put out his wares and ask for advice - and reading the comments made me feel that there was a need for a bit more softness and gentleness and human-ness rather than blunt critique and hard comments...just a thought..

    thanks a lot
    I think seniors here are encouraging enough, just that TS is incorrigible enough to take criticisms, although he post his picture right here, in critique corner..

    so i think it is perfectly justifiable to criticize the attitude as well, not to discourage, but to help him improve.
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