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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Thanks for the break down of versions.

    Speaking of non-D lenses... I noticed that there were non-D 50mm f/1.8 (MIJ) lenses on BnS months earlier... What does non-D mean? D is for distance metering right? Non-D AF versus AF-D... what are we missing out on here?
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    I thought D means having an aperture ring?
    AF-D and AF lenses work similarly, in that they both have aperture rings, and they both uses screw-drive AF, and you lock to minimum aperture when using camera to control aperture.

    The difference is that in the AF-D lens, they have a chip in there that will read distance information and send it back to the camera body. AF lenses work the same, but do not have that chip and will send nothing back to the camera body.

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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    How a lens gets promoted to NIKKOR from Nikkor could come from several factors...

    1st Example... AF-S 50mm f/1.4G is a lens upgraded from the origins of AF 50mm f/1.4D... hence the former gets the NIKKOR treatment while the latter stays at "Nikkor"....

    2nd Example... VR II upgrade from VR I... eg 18-200mm first version is Nikkor while second version is NIKKOR...

    3rd Example... upgrade of Aperture and (G from D)... from f/2.8 to f/1.4 status.... case in point - 24mm prime...

    Above statements doesn't encompass all the hidden changes in the optics and lens function changes...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    For the 80-200, the AF version and the AF-D version differs more than just a distance chip. Some parts of the designed are changed. The optics is improved in the AFD version, and it uses LIMIT switch for focus distance limitation (2 automatic choices, LIMIT or FULL). THe AF version has a ring that allows you to select 3 kinds of distance ranges for focus hunting.

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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    How a lens gets promoted to NIKKOR from Nikkor could come from several factors...

    1st Example... AF-S 50mm f/1.4G is a lens upgraded from the origins of AF 50mm f/1.4D... hence the former gets the NIKKOR treatment while the latter stays at "Nikkor"....

    2nd Example... VR II upgrade from VR I... eg 18-200mm first version is Nikkor while second version is NIKKOR...

    3rd Example... upgrade of Aperture and (G from D)... from f/2.8 to f/1.4 status.... case in point - 24mm prime...
    just caps? I think it means nothing much more than just making it easier to see in the catalogue... so you will not mix up... one is in caps one is not..

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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    just caps? I think it means nothing much more than just making it easier to see in the catalogue... so you will not mix up... one is in caps one is not..
    I dunno man... I've compared between two catalogues... the Caps and non-cap version retains across the years... They don't just CAP this year, then un-cap next year...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    I dunno man... I've compared between two catalogues... the Caps and non-cap version retains across the years... They don't just CAP this year, then un-cap next year...
    But if you look elsewere, like on the web... same meh? got caps?

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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    If you don't believe me...do a search on the nikon boxes of 18-200mm... VR I gets "Nikkor"... VR II gets "NIKKOR"...

    It is reflected on ALL the boxes - the catalogue is consistent with all the caps and non-caps...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    But if you look elsewere, like on the web... same meh? got caps?
    I just did... go look at the boxes of two versions of the lens.... eg... 18-200mm VRI versus VRII...

    you can broaden the search on 70-200mm VR I versus VR II... or 300mm VR I versus VR II...

    This is something nobody cares... but if you look hard enough... the caps mean something!
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    18-200 VR I:


    18-200 VR II:


    Read the Fine title... not the big one like "NIKKOR LENS"
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 VR I:


    AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II:


    Again focus on the fine title wording...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 VR I:


    AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II:


    Again focus on the fine title wording...
    Could it be new packaging policy in 2010?

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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Could it be new packaging policy in 2010?
    Could be! Keep an eye of this for the coming lenses (totally NEW focal range types and see if they keep the caps on or off)... i'm just reading too deeply I know...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Could be! Keep an eye of this for the coming lenses... i'm just reading too deeply I know...
    dude.. relac on the coffee...

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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    dude.. relac on the coffee...
    We'll see okay? I have a gut feeling there is a reason behind all this, that's hidden from us...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Again focus on the fine title wording...
    Lawrence - This "Nikkor" vs "NIKKOR" is new to new.. interesting to note.. Have not found this in the usual Nikkon site that explains the "letters"

    Daredevil & Lawrence - Do update if you can get a confirmation on this

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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by ClemC View Post
    Lawrence - This "Nikkor" vs "NIKKOR" is new to new.. interesting to note.. Have not found this in the usual Nikkon site that explains the "letters"

    Daredevil & Lawrence - Do update if you can get a confirmation on this
    I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill... DD123 could be right, I'm reading too much...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill... DD123 could be right, I'm reading too much...
    send to Nikon Rumors!! (for confirmation, either one way or another)

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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by ClemC View Post
    send to Nikon Rumors!! (for confirmation, either one way or another)
    We'll only know for sure when Nikon releases a totally new focal range (prime or zoom)...

    Not just a new lens... for example 35mm prime is not new even though AF-S 35mm f/1.4G is a new lens...

    One thing that debunks my thinking is the 16-35mm f/4... it receives the NIKKOR title... was there a history behind this focal range?
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    To add to the confusion... AF-S 60mm receives NIKKOR while AF-S 105mm gets Nikkor... And you know both has predecessors in the "D" range... Is the new AF-S 105mm built completely from scratch? But in both 2009 and 2010 catalogues, the NIKKOR/Nikkor title is repeated across both years...

    Again... I repeat, i maybe reading too much out of this...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XIII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    One thing that debunks my thinking is the 16-35mm f/4... it receives the NIKKOR title... was there a history behind this focal range?
    17-35mm f/2.8 AF-S, 18-35mm AF-D, dont think they are "earlier" version.. but never check their lens group, etc.. so .. ... the mistery depthens!!.. hehheehehe..

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