Dreamcar Asia - 240604

mr_jason · 25th June 2004

Went to have a look yesterday. Nothing very impressive, just a few cars to look at, and a few race queens to gawk at. Not worth the $10 entry fee in my opinion. And no re-entry somemore, cannot go out and grab a drink/meal at Burger King and come back in.

Vielside 350Z
1/25s f/4.0 at 21.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 17-40mm f/4

Auto Kultur's Pagani Zonda, the main attraction
1/50s f/4.0 at 20.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 17-40mm f/4

Aussie Race Queen
1/50s f/2.8 at 50.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 50mm f/1.8

Japanese Race Queens
1/30s f/4.0 at 85.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 85mm f/1.8

Cutiepie Heartbreaker Japanese Race Queen
1/60s f/2.8 at 50.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 50mm f/1.8

Full gallery can be seen here.

smallaperture · 26th June 2004

Mr Jason,

Exposure spot on, between the subject and the background. Most of the pics posted by others are mostly underexposed. Some of these things are very basic, like sharpness, composition, exposure have to be right, and you got them all.

BTW, I thought 99.5% of all cameras are auto-everything, but somewhat many pics turned out to be under-exposure I do not know why. Maybe, just use auto and depend everything on the camera might give better results! Just simple logic. S, A or M settings are for the more advanced photogs.

Keep up the good work. The others who post here should see your pics to know what is correct exposure.

mr_jason · 27th June 2004

Thanks for the kind words.

It's quite tricky to get the correct exposure, especially balencing background with the subject if the lighting for both isn't the same (back/front lighting). Once you dial in the correct amount of fill flash, the results should be pleasing. I find very often that I do not 'fill' in the right amount of flash for the subject's face, and this is probably the only aspect which can't be corrected very well while post-processing. For most of my shots I had +EV 1, as the camera would read the bright background and then expose it as a middle tone. This is why my shots didn't get underexposed.

For the case of most cameras being auto, that is true. What this does I think is that the camera will shoot at the widest possible f/stop, and set a fixed shutter speed of say 1/60s or around there (most P & S cameras). If the lighting is still insufficient, then the flash will act as the main light. This will result in dark background as there will be insufficient exposure time for the ambient lighting to be taken in. In order to get background lighting one would have to shoot in long shutter/night scene mode, avilable on some cameras.

clive · 27th June 2004

Originally Posted by mr_jason

For most of my shots I had +EV 1,

mmm that means i judge wrongly. lol

mr_jason · 27th June 2004

Originally Posted by clive

mmm that means i judge wrongly. lol

What was your +EV at? I think most of my shots were EV +1 or +2/3, except those of dark cars. Then post-processing may have to +1/3 or -1/3, depending on the situation.

jeff49er · 27th June 2004

Pic arre cool.

Wish I could be there

mr_jason · 27th June 2004

Originally Posted by jeff49er

Pic arre cool.

Wish I could be there

Overseas now, or just plain bogged down by work? Don't worry, you didn't miss much by not going.

25th June 2004	#1
mr_jason Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,076	Dreamcar Asia - 240604 Went to have a look yesterday. Nothing very impressive, just a few cars to look at, and a few race queens to gawk at. Not worth the $10 entry fee in my opinion. And no re-entry somemore, cannot go out and grab a drink/meal at Burger King and come back in. Vielside 350Z 1/25s f/4.0 at 21.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 17-40mm f/4 Auto Kultur's Pagani Zonda, the main attraction 1/50s f/4.0 at 20.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 17-40mm f/4 Aussie Race Queen 1/50s f/2.8 at 50.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 50mm f/1.8 Japanese Race Queens 1/30s f/4.0 at 85.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 85mm f/1.8 Cutiepie Heartbreaker Japanese Race Queen 1/60s f/2.8 at 50.0mm iso400 with Flash, EF 50mm f/1.8 Full gallery can be seen here.

26th June 2004	#2
smallaperture Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Catchment Area Posts: 2,423	Well Done Mr Jason, Exposure spot on, between the subject and the background. Most of the pics posted by others are mostly underexposed. Some of these things are very basic, like sharpness, composition, exposure have to be right, and you got them all. BTW, I thought 99.5% of all cameras are auto-everything, but somewhat many pics turned out to be under-exposure I do not know why. Maybe, just use auto and depend everything on the camera might give better results! Just simple logic. S, A or M settings are for the more advanced photogs. Keep up the good work. The others who post here should see your pics to know what is correct exposure.

27th June 2004	#3
mr_jason Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,076	Thanks for the kind words. It's quite tricky to get the correct exposure, especially balencing background with the subject if the lighting for both isn't the same (back/front lighting). Once you dial in the correct amount of fill flash, the results should be pleasing. I find very often that I do not 'fill' in the right amount of flash for the subject's face, and this is probably the only aspect which can't be corrected very well while post-processing. For most of my shots I had +EV 1, as the camera would read the bright background and then expose it as a middle tone. This is why my shots didn't get underexposed. For the case of most cameras being auto, that is true. What this does I think is that the camera will shoot at the widest possible f/stop, and set a fixed shutter speed of say 1/60s or around there (most P & S cameras). If the lighting is still insufficient, then the flash will act as the main light. This will result in dark background as there will be insufficient exposure time for the ambient lighting to be taken in. In order to get background lighting one would have to shoot in long shutter/night scene mode, avilable on some cameras.

27th June 2004	#6
jeff49er Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Punggol Park Posts: 2,020	Pic arre cool. Wish I could be there