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    Quote Originally Posted by tess71 View Post
    Hi. thank you very much for your advice. I went to John 3:16. I cordially said that they might have mistaken the about the price and have given me the price of Hoya or Kenko. After showing him the receipt, he said he's sorry for giving me the emolux for the price of Hoya. He replaced the two filters with Hoya HMC multicoated filter UV (C). Before I left Funan, I dropped by Alan Foto and ask for the price of Hoya. Both stores are of same price range but with a slight difference. This time, I felt confident that I got what I paid for, shouldn't I?
    you are good to go bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tess71 View Post
    Hi. thank you very much for your advice. I went to John 3:16. I cordially said that they might have mistaken the about the price and have given me the price of Hoya or Kenko. After showing him the receipt, he said he's sorry for giving me the emolux for the price of Hoya. He replaced the two filters with Hoya HMC multicoated filter UV (C). Before I left Funan, I dropped by Alan Foto and ask for the price of Hoya. Both stores are of same price range but with a slight difference. This time, I felt confident that I got what I paid for, shouldn't I?
    Glad you came out ok after the incident. smart of you to give them the platform to step down from, instead of a nasty confrontation. Cheers!

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    hey.
    i want to get a polarizing filter for my canon 550D...any suggestions? i really need advice, actually, very new to all this things.
    thanks for the thread ive learn lotsa info from it
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    Quote Originally Posted by emirates View Post
    hey.
    i want to get a polarizing filter for my canon 550D...any suggestions? i really need advice, actually, very new to all this things.
    thanks for the thread ive learn lotsa info from it
    The guide already gives you some suggestions on the brands and the models. There is also a link to the filter price guide. You have to decide which one will best suit your needs.

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    Hi, i need advise on the square filter. I'm looking at the Cokin P-series (84mm filter) and Z-series (100mm filter).
    May I know which one is recommended for a DSLR camera?
    Is it better to get a Z -series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyphoon
    Hi, i need advise on the square filter. I'm looking at the Cokin P-series (84mm filter) and Z-series (100mm filter).
    May I know which one is recommended for a DSLR camera?
    Is it better to get a Z -series?
    Depends on the focal length and the lenses you are going to use. Also depends on whether you are using full frame or APS-C sensor based DSLRs.

    And if you are looking at 100mm filters, do also consider Lee filters and Hitech filters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyphoon View Post
    Hi, i need advise on the square filter. I'm looking at the Cokin P-series (84mm filter) and Z-series (100mm filter).
    May I know which one is recommended for a DSLR camera?
    Is it better to get a Z -series?
    I find that P series is already good enough for me. But if you are using UWA Lens, and you like to stack filters (> 1), It will be better to get Z or even the X Series as for the P series, you need to get the SLIM holder which can only hold 1 filter at a time.

    Of course Z and X series will cost more (probably ALOT more...) as compared to P series. If you are considering P series for filters and just "playing" around to see if you need filters, consider Tian Ya filters, cheap and reasonable quality considering the price. For the Tian Ya ones, just get what you need and not buy the bundle ones, the bundle comes with alot of filters you may not even be using even thou those colors sounds cool (e.g. Graduated Blue, Graduated Orange etc.).
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    Guys!

    Just want to ask if i can combined the uv and cpl filter together...

    Thanks a lot in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by alluvira View Post
    Guys!

    Just want to ask if i can combined the uv and cpl filter together...

    Thanks a lot in advance
    Optically, there should be minimal issue, though I wonder why you'd wanna do that.
    Perhaps you find it troublesome to remove the UV filter, which you leave on the lens all the time?

    The issue I can think of is vignetting caused by having 2 filters stacked on top of each other.
    Exploring! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alluvira View Post
    Guys!

    Just want to ask if i can combined the uv and cpl filter together...

    Thanks a lot in advance
    If you are using cheaper UV and CPL, it will be an issue in certain situations. It is not wise though, since the more glass you add infront of your lens, the more you degrade the picture quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Depends on the focal length and the lenses you are going to use. Also depends on whether you are using full frame or APS-C sensor based DSLRs.

    And if you are looking at 100mm filters, do also consider Lee filters and Hitech filters.


    I camera is APS-C Sensor and I am using it for UWA lens. I also looking at Lee filters but currently there is no stock in Singapore.
    So for APC-C Sensor with UWA Lens. 85mm filters will be good enough or 100mm filter is better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyphoon View Post
    I camera is APS-C Sensor and I am using it for UWA lens. I also looking at Lee filters but currently there is no stock in Singapore.
    So for APC-C Sensor with UWA Lens. 85mm filters will be good enough or 100mm filter is better?
    For APS-C UWA, your only option for 85mm filters is to use the Cokin Wide angle holder or equivalent. This holder is a single slot holder. Even with this holder, when used on a Tokina 11-16 UWA on a Nikon DX body, I experienced vignetting at 11 - 11.5mm. 12mm is usable but can detect some light fall off.

    Funny thing is I have heard people having no problems even at 10mm when using the Sigma 10-20mm lens. This might be due to the construction of the lens.

    Canon crop sensor shooters can even worry less, because of the crop factor that Canon adopts is 1.6x instead of the more popular 1.5x. That means Canon users have a little more leeway in vignetting, at the expense of angle of view, of course.

    As for filter holder for 100mm, you can go with many options. Lee, Hitech, Cokin-Z-pro, and other China copies. All will work with 100mm filters from all brands except the specialized ones like CPL, or big stopper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    Optically, there should be minimal issue, though I wonder why you'd wanna do that.
    Perhaps you find it troublesome to remove the UV filter, which you leave on the lens all the time?

    The issue I can think of is vignetting caused by having 2 filters stacked on top of each other.
    Bro, I have experienced in the past, stacking two cheaper filters (hoya non coated, and tokina cpl) and ended up with lots of glare and general loss of sharpness in all my pictures on a sunny day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    For APS-C UWA, your only option for 85mm filters is to use the Cokin Wide angle holder or equivalent. This holder is a single slot holder. Even with this holder, when used on a Tokina 11-16 UWA on a Nikon DX body, I experienced vignetting at 11 - 11.5mm. 12mm is usable but can detect some light fall off.

    Funny thing is I have heard people having no problems even at 10mm when using the Sigma 10-20mm lens. This might be due to the construction of the lens.

    Canon crop sensor shooters can even worry less, because of the crop factor that Canon adopts is 1.6x instead of the more popular 1.5x. That means Canon users have a little more leeway in vignetting, at the expense of angle of view, of course.

    As for filter holder for 100mm, you can go with many options. Lee, Hitech, Cokin-Z-pro, and other China copies. All will work with 100mm filters from all brands except the specialized ones like CPL, or big stopper.
    To add on, for the Canon 10-22 with the Wide Angle Holder, no vignetting will appear. Vignetting will appear on this lens if UV filter is already on the lens regardless normal or slim UV Filter (despite the little more leeway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyStrike View Post
    I'm using the Canon 10-22 with the Wide Angle Holder, no vignetting. Vignetting will appear on this lens if UV filter is already on the lens regardless normal or slim UV Filter.
    Like I said, due to Canon's 1.6x crop factor, it helps on the vignetting issue, but at the expense of field (angle) of view for the same focal length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Like I said, due to Canon's 1.6x crop factor, it helps on the vignetting issue, but at the expense of field (angle) of view for the same focal length.
    Sry bro, I meant it as a "to-add-on" kinda information and not to challenge what was written by you... (edited prev post). The little leeway for 1.6x Crop factor is not enough for it to cover for the UV filter stacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Bro, I have experienced in the past, stacking two cheaper filters (hoya non coated, and tokina cpl) and ended up with lots of glare and general loss of sharpness in all my pictures on a sunny day.
    true true...

    cheap dun say la
    Anyway I would try to avoid attaching a CPL on top of a UV filter
    Last edited by ZerocoolAstra; 10th May 2011 at 04:51 PM.
    Exploring! :)

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    Default Re: Newbie Guide to Filters

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyStrike View Post
    Sry bro, I meant it as a "to-add-on" kinda information and not to challenge what was written by you... (edited prev post). The little leeway for 1.6x Crop factor is not enough for it to cover for the UV filter stacking.
    erm? I didn't say you challenge me mah.
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    erm? I didn't say you challenge me mah.
    You terrorist pic scare pple lah haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlim76 View Post
    You terrorist pic scare pple lah haha.
    Ya, scary :P *jk*
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