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    You can get china imitation 100mm holders from orient too. Slightly cheaper than lee
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolthought View Post
    so what is the "serious design flaw"?
    Hitech filter holder if you look at it from the side it resembles the shape of "h", whereas LEE holder looks like "H". Hitech holder will not secure itself onto the adapter ring if you loosen it; you risk dropping the holder when you rotate the holder as there are no grooves to secure the holder when it is in loose state.

    Imagine if you are using glass filters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yrh0413 View Post
    NO, get only LEE holder, strictly no Hitech holder. Hitech holder has serious design flaw.
    Think I probably decide to get the lee 100mm for now hope it's not a wrong choice
    Weekend I go down to tk foto to see

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    Pardon me for asking, what size is the lee holder??
    Cos I have a 67mm adaptor ring from cokin I wonder if it fits if yes I can save about probably 60 bucks

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    LEE has its own adapter ring, and it will not be compatible with Cokin's. You need to get the LEE adapter ring.

    For me I just get 82mm adapter ring + stepping rings for all my lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yrh0413 View Post
    LEE has its own adapter ring, and it will not be compatible with Cokin's. You need to get the LEE adapter ring.

    For me I just get 82mm adapter ring + stepping rings for all my lenses.

    The ring u talking abt is the generic type 1 right?

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    Of course adapter ring from LEE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yrh0413 View Post
    Of course adapter ring from LEE.
    Oh okay anyway FYI for those interested

    I just went to tk foto

    Hitech pro stopper 10 stops got manufacturing problems they stopped selling
    Big lee stopper out of stock

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    Hey.Thanks for this thread.This thread is very helpful for new members of this forum.

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    Just got my Lee foundation kit and 82mm adapter ring... returned the Hitech kit to Teamworkphoto. Along with the package is the Prostopper and 100x150 ND grads
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    Quote Originally Posted by yrh0413
    Just got my Lee foundation kit and 82mm adapter ring... returned the Hitech kit to Teamworkphoto. Along with the package is the Prostopper and 100x150 ND grads
    How much u spent bro? I tot pro stopper no longer on sale?
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    I have always needed this guide to ND filter.. thanks mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowseye View Post
    How much u spent bro? I tot pro stopper no longer on sale?
    Close to $1k but bought a lot of other stuff as well. No time to try out the pro stopper yet.
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    Broke my Lee Big Stopper in Vietnam... *CRY*

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    oh crap. getting a new one next?

    how do you keep your filter in the given pouch? do you wrap it in some cloth of something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123
    Broke my Lee Big Stopper in Vietnam... *CRY*
    Omg!! Pain.....
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    For those interested apparently there seem to be a new batch of hitech pro stopper at tk foto
    I got 1 and I confirm w the sales guy n he said any problem can xchange w the receipt

    Tml I'll try out hopefully no rAin

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesy View Post
    oh crap. getting a new one next?

    how do you keep your filter in the given pouch? do you wrap it in some cloth of something?
    Nope. I use a filter pouch...

    But I broke it when I flew off a motorcycle that went wheelie and flipped, throwing me and driver into the air and landing on me on my filter pouch which was attached on my speed belt. Camera and lens was totally fine. All the resin filters and Lee foundation kit holder are totally fine, But the big stopper is cracked at 3 locations when I took it out the following morning at sunrise... threw it away while enjoying this sunrise...



    Not sure if I am getting one soon. As it is, I don't use it very often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123

    Nope. I use a filter pouch...

    But I broke it when I flew off a motorcycle that went wheelie and flipped, throwing me and driver into the air and landing on me on my filter pouch which was attached on my speed belt. Camera and lens was totally fine. All the resin filters and Lee foundation kit holder are totally fine, But the big stopper is cracked at 3 locations when I took it out the following morning at sunrise... threw it away while enjoying this sunrise...

    Not sure if I am getting one soon. As it is, I don't use it very often.
    Well, if that's the case.. Consider it 破财消灾 (lose money to avoid disaster)... I guessed you weren't badly injured right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123
    Questions on this topic has come up again and again. And I have cut and paste this infor quite a number of times. Finally decided to create this thread to help the newbies when buying filters.

    Filter Price Guide

    First and foremost, for the sake of convenience, I will list Clubsnap's Filter price guide as maintained by our hardworking mods. The price guide to filters can be found here:
    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263716

    What are Filters for?

    No we are not talking about the ones you put into your coffee machine, or the ones that goes into your car.

    The Filters we are talking about pieces of glass or optical resin (plastic) that we put in front (and on rare occassions, inside) of our lenses to achieve a specific effect or for protection.

    Filter Brands - The Good the Bad and the Ugly

    Filters have cheap range, medium range and high end range. All depends on your budget but I would recommend you to get at least a medium range one.

    Examples of some popular/well known/notorious brands/models:
    very cheap range: Vitacon, Emolux, Steinzeiser, Sunblitz
    cheap range: tokina, Hoya uncoated, hoya both sides coated, Kenko standard, Marumi standard
    Medium economy range: Hoya HMC, , Kenko MC, Marumi DHG,
    Medium high range: Hoya Pro1D, Kenko Pro1D, Marumi Super DHG
    Hi end range: B+W MRC, Hoya HD, Kenko Zeta, Rodenstock, Heliopan

    Filter Brands are like Cars

    Continental cars are expensive and generally perform very very well. Continental cars also have higher and lower models. eg. S-class, A-class.
    Continental cars: B+W, Rodenstock, Heliopan, LEE, Schneider Optics

    French cars are ok and reasonably priced but sometimes performance is not the best in certain situations.
    French cars: Cokin

    American cars quite a few are very good, but quite a number are lemons. Some are good but just not worth the money.
    American cars: Tiffen, Singh Ray

    Japanese cars: some are cheap and perform not so good but better than the ones listed below. medium priced ones are quite good and very reliable. some are top of the line (like Lexus, Infiniti, Acura) and perform very well, and some of those top of the line even exceed the performance of continental cars.
    Japanese cars: Nikon, Canon, Hoya, Kenko, Marumi, Tokina

    China cars: very cheap, usually copies of more expensive brands, quality depends on the specific car. Some are terrible. But if you find a good one, it will be good and worth many times the low price you pay for it.
    China cars: Tianya

    I will stay away from any other brands not mentioned here and the ones below.

    Malaysia/Singapore cars: Brands are owned/founded locally in MY or SG. Usually most of the parts are OEM by other companies. Supposed to be very cheap. Salesman always try to tell you it is very good and give you the wrong impression that it is made in Germany or Japan. And will try to sell you at a much higher rip off price. Performance is just so so. Some are totally terrible. Some are not bad.
    Malaysia/Singapore Cars: Steinzeiser, Vitacon, Emolux.

    About Hoya and Kenko

    Hoya and Kenko (and Tokina) are very closely related companies in Japan. They are most likely in the same keiretsu. Many of their filters share almost the same model names, and some of them are almost identical.

    Not all Hoya filters are made equal. Not all Hoya filters are priced equal. Not all Kenko filters are made equal. Not all Kenko filters are priced equal.
    Also note that Tokina filters are on the lower end and they do not offer any of the higher performing filters.
    Also note that Tokina manufactures all of their own, Hoya's and Kenko's filters using Hoya's glass

    Know what you are buying.

    Current models...

    Hoya (from cheap to expensive):
    Hoya both sides coated (single coating on each side)
    Hoya HMC (Hoya Multicoated - basic multicoating)
    Hoya SMC (discontinued?, good multicoated)
    Hoya Ultra (discontinued?, thin ring, good multicoated)
    Hoya Pro1D (advanced multicoating matt thin ring with knurling edge, optimized for digital)
    Hoya HD (multicoated and hardened, scratch and oil resistant. around price levels of B+W MRC)

    Kenko (from cheap to expensive):
    Kenko standard filters (no coating),
    Kenko MC (Basic Multicoated),
    Kenko Pro1D (equivalent to Hoya Pro1D)
    Kenko Zeta (equivalent to Hoya HD)
    Kenko Zeta EX (extra thin/slim CPL filters)
    Was browsing the forum and came across this useful thread. Thanks a lot.

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