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    Default Re: How important is flash in event photography?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaweb View Post
    For indoor event, recommend to use a powerful external flash. It is very useful esp. for group photography.
    how do u throw out enough light? i always find groupshots a nightmare. just need a difference in distance between 2 ppl front and back, u get very uneven lighting

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    First, you have to understand LIGHT, and it's properties, then what flash/artificial light is capable of, and then what modifiers are capable of ... then you will start grasping the whole sheebang called ... 'LIGHT'!

    Seriously.

    Ask yourself, what is (conventional) photography all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    First, you have to understand LIGHT, and it's properties, then what flash/artificial light is capable of, and then what modifiers are capable of ... then you will start grasping the whole sheebang called ... 'LIGHT'!

    Seriously.

    Ask yourself, what is (conventional) photography all about?
    its about photoshop?

    photograph means drawing with light. hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    First, you have to understand LIGHT, and it's properties, then what flash/artificial light is capable of, and then what modifiers are capable of ... then you will start grasping the whole sheebang called ... 'LIGHT'!

    Seriously.

    Ask yourself, what is (conventional) photography all about?
    thats very true, however as a newbie i have ALOT to learn about flash and lighting. probably wouldnt know how to use the complicated Nikon Speedlights even if i had one. Time to learn? Or does this flash and lighting thing have a steep learning curve?

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    Default Re: How important is flash in event photography?

    Quote Originally Posted by allenleonhart View Post
    consider this. at f2.8, dof is shallow. if it is lowlight, and your body isnt able to handle, AF may always be off.

    at f4, u have a better leeway due to the larger dof.

    now, at f4, do you have enough light?

    if not, what shld you use?

    flash can work well if you are skilled enough. its fine to have the subject brighter than background by a stop or 2

    anyways... ttl for most brands get what u need. i suggest to rent a flash first. it can do wonders if used well.






    if not for the flash i would never get these 2 shots. too dark.

    the last shot is solely lighted by a flash bounced to the right of subject against the wall
    this is true, i'm also in this event and i'm shooting with my build in 50D flash with iso 1250 in 2.8 with 125 shutter speed, just to get an ok picture,

    so yeah i'll say external flash is important in dimlit indoor photography especially if u wanna get moving objects
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    Default Re: How important is flash in event photography?

    Quote Originally Posted by SAMUELS View Post
    thats very true, however as a newbie i have ALOT to learn about flash and lighting. probably wouldnt know how to use the complicated Nikon Speedlights even if i had one. Time to learn? Or does this flash and lighting thing have a steep learning curve?
    How important is flash? Very.
    Is on board pop up flash enough? No.
    How to use external flash? Here you go:

    http://www.gentleye.com/photo/photoa...ash/index.html
    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=171657
    http://nikonclspracticalguide.blogspot.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by willdoang View Post
    this is true, i'm also in this event and i'm shooting with my build in 50D flash with iso 1250 in 2.8 with 125 shutter speed, just to get an ok picture,
    so yeah i'll say external flash is important in dimlit indoor photography especially if u wanna get moving objects
    With pop up you will never be able to bounce the flash...

    And what's so great about bounced flash? it gives some directionality and very natural looking diffused light. Like this one...

    Last edited by daredevil123; 11th November 2010 at 08:24 AM.

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    Default Re: How important is flash in event photography?

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    With pop up you will never be able to bounce the flash...

    And what's so great about bounced flash? it gives some directionality and very natural looking diffused light. Like this one...

    couldn't agree more, but at that moment i just sold of my 420EXII in the morning so no choice but to use the pop up one hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by willdoang View Post
    couldn't agree more, but at that moment i just sold of my 420EXII in the morning so no choice but to use the pop up one hahaha
    why sell? flash the more the merrier... can use for strobing mah.

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    Default Re: How important is flash in event photography?

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    How important is flash? Very.
    Is on board pop up flash enough? No.
    How to use external flash? Here you go:

    http://www.gentleye.com/photo/photoa...ash/index.html
    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=171657
    http://nikonclspracticalguide.blogspot.com/
    just to add on another link

    http://neilvn.com/tangents/flash-pho...hy-techniques/

    do consider balance on your body... when i was still very new on my d5000 i once paired it with a 28-70 and a nissin di622 flash... finger pain... (but of course 28-70 is monstrous in size)

    the d5000 doesn't come with original nikon battery grip though (although got 3rd party)

    i think if you are willing to sacrifice range, getting a pro lens like the 17-55 would help reduce low light hunting...

    also things to keep a look out for when you do your e-learning:

    -find out how to balance ambient and flash light.. very easy to end up overpowering one with the other

    -find out how flash exposure compensation works...

    -etc

    and no matter how many people you see doing it... diffusing flash is not just about slapping a diffusion device like a hard cap or a lightsphere dome or look-a-like and just firing straight up (unless you absolutely need to)

    make full use of any large surfaces like nearby walls to do bounce flash, should give better looking directional lighting

    hope this helps

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    Default Re: How important is flash in event photography?

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    How important is flash? Very.
    Is on board pop up flash enough? No.
    How to use external flash? Here you go:

    http://www.gentleye.com/photo/photoa...ash/index.html
    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=171657
    http://nikonclspracticalguide.blogspot.com/
    Great links! was about to go Riceball to buy a book on flash photography techniques!
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