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    actually... no real human can endure war. soldiers are ...mayeb just a bit more able to endure the hardships of war slightly better than normal civilians..after a few days of fighting, whether soldier or civilian, all will be tired, even if u r on the winnign side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clive
    actually... no real human can endure war. soldiers are ...mayeb just a bit more able to endure the hardships of war slightly better than normal civilians..after a few days of fighting, whether soldier or civilian, all will be tired, even if u r on the winnign side.
    how to endure war if you can't even stand the bombardment from your sergeant?

    i quite worried about going to war with some of them...
    that includes my OC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysonlovenemo
    one scary thing is nowsday, they will spent more time in simulator than actual livefiring (can smell the aroma of sweat, dust and gunpowder) or driving tank (eating sand) in area D, machiam like play computer game.....
    so in term of tolerance to hardship etc ........ a bit questionable......
    or maybe the future warfare will be like playing computer game???
    u hit a button, target destroy.........
    make old people like us more or less obselete
    So oldies like me no need to worry about ICT already... cool!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by st11x
    The army knew all along that this day would be coming. It is evident in the song ...

    ... Once in our life, 2 years of our time ... .!


    I remembered I used to sneak in the 2 and the half amidst laughters, but it just doesn't sound right
    Ahh... but that song was catered more for the unit men (2 years NS) rather than the NCOs and Officers (2.5 years NS)...!

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    i think they put "2yr" instead of "2nhalf yr" more becoz of musical reasons..ie to make the phrase fit the melody better


    one thing i gripe about NSF outfield training is that even thou u r exposed to the elements, its still not fun enough. ie its boring to fire blanks at imaginary enemy...i really wished they adopt the style of <combat missions> where teams fight against teams...but for safety reasons SAF wont do it one lor. anyway the <combat missions> format only applies to infantry section/guards/commando...ie not applicable everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by CupNoodle
    its like we have been trying to put across to the government that 2 years is actually sufficient to be operational ready. its after so many years they finally realised that. sheesh!
    Why did the government take such a long time to implement this change?

    A bit of the Singapore History. Singapore is a small, open-economy. From a small fishing village to a developed nation, it has sailed through many challenges in the past especially in the 50's and 60's.

    Given the trend of Globalisation and Industrialisation, Singapore is bound to face much more challenges ahead, magitiude might vary.

    The government is facing with some sort of trade-off, i.e. national defense vs economic growth. Thus, after so many years of analysis etc, they have decided to shorten the NS service term. Everyone knows that the government is very prudent and cautious when they make policy changes.

    Actually, shortening NS service term will bring many benefits (both tangibles and intangibles) to the nation. It would be good to reduce the term to 1-1.5 years similar to Taiwan, and reservist term to age 35. The emphasis should be on the quality of training and not quantity, i.e. no. of years. What's the point of having so long training if you were to pamper the soldiers, such as air-con bunks, etc. Remember those days that you needed to force-march to Camp I and III in Tekong from the jetty, now, there is transport to bring you into the camp. Too much of a welfare??? That's not talk about physcially fit or not, how about your mental cultivation? This is the most important element in a soldier. "It's all in your mind", a term used in the army. Once your mental is weak , no matter how fit you are, you will not be able go through any obstacles, may it in the army or in life.

    To summarise, these are the potential benefits of shortening NS service term :

    1) Early entry for Poly and University under-graduates

    2) Early contribution to the work force. Thus stimulate economic growth

    3) Narrow the gap between our female/foreign counterparts in terms of working experience, salary scale, etc (Note that in the private sector, working experience is what the employers are looking for, and not the no. of years you have charged up the hills)

    4) Due to earlier participation in the workforce, more savings can accumulated

    5) With more savings, you can start dating, getting married earlier

    6) More time for social life, family

    7) More time available to make babies if you settle down earlier

    8) More time to go for skills upgrading/studies in order to stay competitive (Upgrade!!!, sound familiar?)

    9) Less migration by young talented/professional people (These poeple think for their next generations)


    Many years ago, I was in a meeting where there were few foreigners. Most of them are professionals, some even have PhD titles, etc. Guess how old are they? They are in the mid 20's. Oh my god, a PhD guy in the mid 20's compared to my friend who is a Singaporean still struggling his PhD at age of 30. Sigh, right? All because these people don't need to serve any NS. They have saved 3 years to pursue their studies or whatever they are pursing. Foreign talents finished their basic degree at the age of 21-22 on average while we are still charging up the hills. They gave me a smile "Heng" man, that we didn't need to serve NS.

    Ironically, we are being some sort of mind-washing that skills upgrading/further studies is the key to your long-term employability and survivability. The question is "Do you really have the time"? to do some many things given you are limited to 24 hours a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USM
    Many years ago, I was in a meeting where there were few foreigners. Most of them are professionals, some even have PhD titles, etc. Guess how old are they? They are in the mid 20's. Oh my god, a PhD guy in the mid 20's compared to my friend who is a Singaporean still struggling his PhD at age of 30. Sigh, right? All because these people don't need to serve any NS. They have saved 3 years to pursue their studies or whatever they are pursing. Foreign talents finished their basic degree at the age of 21-22 on average while we are still charging up the hills. They gave me a smile "Heng" man, that we didn't need to serve NS.
    there are some thigns during army life that they will never be able to experience/understand

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    the price we pay for peace.
    high but worth it.


    regarding reservist training, i will continued to support it as long as i can hold and fire a rifle. whoever threaten my family and country will never get it easy from me even if i am already 70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zekai
    the price we pay for peace.
    high but worth it.


    regarding reservist training, i will continued to support it as long as i can hold and fire a rifle. whoever threaten my family and country will never get it easy from me even if i am already 70.
    zek..make it 90

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    Quote Originally Posted by clive
    zek..make it 90

    i am not that optimistic about my lifespan old boy

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    in singapore, live too old also not good useless u r still strong and healthy,
    otherwise too much burden to younger generation......

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