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    You can say JC's or anyone's work or exhibit is good and that you like it, fine, but why judge someone (JC in this case) based on his status(successful pro in NYC, Singaporean who made it) or effort(did not come easy so forth) put in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Tay
    It has been extremely disappointing and hurting how John Clang has been so brutally criticized for his effort.
    Oh get real. If you put in a lot of effort churning out a piece of sh*t, doesn't change the fact that it's still sh*t and people will still call it as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus
    Oh get real. If you put in a lot of effort churning out a piece of sh*t, doesn't change the fact that it's still sh*t and people will still call it as such.
    he has an idea to share, a vision to show, fine if you dun like it, dun need to be rude

    you can out in alot if effort to get a perfect shot, perfect exposure and composition etc, but if it does not communicate an idea, it still say nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NashVillian
    he has an idea to share, a vision to show, fine if you dun like it, dun need to be rude

    you can out in alot if effort to get a perfect shot, perfect exposure and composition etc, but if it does not communicate an idea, it still say nothing.

    Hmmm.........

    Feels that everything in itself will say something or convey a message, even if it is a piece of ****. Right?

    So, by creating something that is able to communicate an idea alone should not be justifiable enough to term it as a good piece of artwork or creation.

    Didn't follow this thread for long time, just passing by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus
    Oh get real. If you put in a lot of effort churning out a piece of sh*t, doesn't change the fact that it's still sh*t and people will still call it as such.
    one man **** is another man fertiliser.

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    I've been to see the exhibition. I'm very moved and it is very simple, very beautiful, very poetic.

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    did u go to the right gallery?

    Quote Originally Posted by wakeup
    I've been to see the exhibition. I'm very moved and it is very simple, very beautiful, very poetic.

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    Went there yesterday - its different its not fashion work - Clang never said it was did say it was personal - had the nice wall filled with extracts from an interview that basically tells you enough to view his pictures in context was there to see if you looked hard not to see since it a whole bloody wall. Pictures are not glamour, are not saloon, are not nice pretty perfect world shots, are not visual cotton candy; not harsh real back street girtty PJ stuff either - best descriptive is soft core grit. It's an attempt to do story telling without words. Not sure if I understand the story without his text. But it could me or that his emotional state too chim for me to comprehend. Some of what I saw only starts to make some sense overnight; never claimed to be particular fast on the uptake.

    Pictures are techically very good. I think they require a viewer to think and look in depth as opposed to oogle at the pretty subject (I suspect there is a strong slant to anti glamour the picture by the photographer). The large prints were gorgeous. The small ones take some getting used to may as a video it may make more sense on a quick viewing.

    I suggest that viewers should go with an open mind, look, read the handouts, look, relook, think abit before jumping to conclusion. Would have been bitterly dissapointed if had not know the fact that this was not his commercial work but his personal. This is my opinion - it may not agree with another person's, any one can have one they call their own and is entittle to it since it marks who and what they are.

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    Well, today's the last day. Go down and catch it if you want to know what the fuss was all about, and form your opinion. I suspect my review garnered more viewings than it would otherwise have gotten. More power to Clang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NashVillian
    he has an idea to share, a vision to show, fine if you dun like it, dun need to be rude

    you can out in alot if effort to get a perfect shot, perfect exposure and composition etc, but if it does not communicate an idea, it still say nothing.
    Right...In JC's case, it's poor exposure, poor composition, poor shot etc , in addition to saying nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insomia
    Went there yesterday - its different its not fashion work - Clang never said it was did say it was personal - had the nice wall filled with extracts from an interview that basically tells you enough to view his pictures in context was there to see if you looked hard not to see since it a whole bloody wall. Pictures are not glamour, are not saloon, are not nice pretty perfect world shots, are not visual cotton candy; not harsh real back street girtty PJ stuff either - best descriptive is soft core grit. It's an attempt to do story telling without words. Not sure if I understand the story without his text. But it could me or that his emotional state too chim for me to comprehend. Some of what I saw only starts to make some sense overnight; never claimed to be particular fast on the uptake.

    Pictures are techically very good. I think they require a viewer to think and look in depth as opposed to oogle at the pretty subject (I suspect there is a strong slant to anti glamour the picture by the photographer). The large prints were gorgeous. The small ones take some getting used to may as a video it may make more sense on a quick viewing.

    I suggest that viewers should go with an open mind, look, read the handouts, look, relook, think abit before jumping to conclusion. Would have been bitterly dissapointed if had not know the fact that this was not his commercial work but his personal. This is my opinion - it may not agree with another person's, any one can have one they call their own and is entittle to it since it marks who and what they are.
    That's precisely my niece's plan for her exhibition. Look DEEP.

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    Minoxman, post us a link to your gallery please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfibius
    Minoxman, post us a link to your gallery please.
    http://www.picturesky.com/index.php?cat=10676

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    Minoxman after 4 weeks you are still at it!

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    hi guys, please go down to check Pierre et Gilles at the Singapore Art Museum, it's on till 17th July. The exhibition is huge and worth every cent paid, and there are tons of stunning works on display
    Interesting methods of production too, combining painting and photography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minoxman
    That's precisely my niece's plan for her exhibition. Look DEEP.

    Yeah we all are waiting to see yours and your nieces or are the works so similar that we will not be able to tell the differences.

    Glance thru yr link - 2 words of advice to you Ralph Gibson.No wonder why some times the Indians of Little India look so strangely at people who carry cameras there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insomia
    Yeah we all are waiting to see yours and your nieces or are the works so similar that we will not be able to tell the differences.

    Glance thru yr link - 2 words of advice to you Ralph Gibson.No wonder why some times the Indians of Little India look so strangely at people who carry cameras there.
    2 words?Where?
    You have a link to yours? Sleepless?heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by insomia
    Some of what I saw only starts to make some sense overnight; never claimed to be particular fast on the uptake.
    We kindly can remind ourselves that "All photographs are there to remind us of what we forget. In this - as in other ways - they are the opposite of paintings.

    Paintings record what the painter remembers. Because each one of us forgets different things, a photo more than a painting may change its meaning according to who is looking at it."
    - John Berger (1926-), British novelist

    One speciality one lifetime - it is going to be a reality
    in the local photography community, Congratulations!

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    I am extremely disappointed and dismayed to see such unconstructive criticism, even to the point of personal attacks here. That is totally unprofessional.

    Art is a form where an artist expresses his thoughts and ideas through a medium. Although CLANG's work is really simple and anyone could have done it, it certainly made me ponder and reflect on his intentions. Being a Singaporean living alone in NYC myself, i certainly share and appreciate his thoughts of his "Backs" and "The fear of losing existance".

    Coming from a humble background, I applaud CLANG's courage to venture overseas, despite objections from his peers. And I certainly am proud of his achievements. Recently, a student from NTU won the PDN 2004 annual student category award for his simple piece "while you were sleeping". I hope that young aspiring artists/designers/photographers would look upon CLANG as a role model and pursue their dreams and passion for art.

    Lastly, to those who dissed the work, I certainly hope one day you will embrace it with open arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ongn
    Art is a form where an artist expresses his thoughts and ideas through a medium. Although CLANG's work is really simple and anyone could have done it, it certainly made me ponder and reflect on his intentions. Being a Singaporean living alone in NYC myself, i certainly share and appreciate his thoughts of his "Backs" and "The fear of losing existance".
    Not speaking specifically of JC or this exhibition:
    More reflections and pondering is helpful, becoz eventually something will emerge from nothing. Eureka! Or is it someone taking the mickey out of another.

    Quote Originally Posted by ongn
    Coming from a humble background, I applaud CLANG's courage to venture overseas, despite objections from his peers. And I certainly am proud of his achievements. Recently, a student from NTU won the PDN 2004 annual student category award for his simple piece "while you were sleeping". I hope that young aspiring artists/designers/photographers would look upon CLANG as a role model and pursue their dreams and passion for art.

    Lastly, to those who dissed the work, I certainly hope one day you will embrace it with open arms.
    Yes yes, let's not get personal and go into personal details, situations, lives
    blah blah blah.

    If a piece of work can't be dissed, there also wouldn't be any embrace for it. Think about it.

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