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    17 years old student's thread brings out many lecturers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    my camera just walks off on its own to the seaside and comes back with pictures of sunsets, cats, etc....
    Quote Originally Posted by happyfrog View Post
    yea, i wish my camera is also on autopilot. haha!
    Wow.. an equipment that can auto shoot.....

    Is it called a pen**? (To prevent brand promoting etc.. the full name is not given )

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    hope u solved everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by JVlarcus View Post
    Hey really apologize for starting this thread was a little harsh, and really apologize for ranting here. Anyway the seller has apologize for pushing the blame onto me and still thanked me for clarifying with him, and honouring his word, Kudos to him

    Also unlike other working adults who may earn a SALARY, I don't and my parents do not like to spoil us, so the lens(Although it may mean VERY cheap to you) meant a fair bit of amount to me.

    Just To Clarify:

    I think I started this thread as I was in a little stress and his message didn't help. Also after the long travel time I took down to meet him, to travel back and forth(I don't drive yet) to meet him after school and was kinda disappointed that it was spoilt. SORRY BIG BOIIS

    AS I SAID, The lens only started to show signs of problems after awhile of usage, and when I tested the lens, it was only maybe 5mins? As he was in a rush to go off for a trip or something so the problems did not show.Yes I know I "accepted" it when I tested it but what happens in my case? Please read the post properly before shooting your mouth off.

    Anyway, I believe this is part and parcel of life, and part of my process of growing up.

    Feel free to PM me if you have any doubts on anything.

    P.S I don't have time to check the forum 24/7 a day so may only check once or twice a day, so no worries, I would REPLY you as soon as I get back.I just posted it like today so don't need unconstructive comments from some trolls E.g (Oh TS see unconstructive remarks then no balls reply. I would gladly like to have a personal 1-1 talk with you face-face coz unlike some , I have something called "a life" )

    Anyway am not trying to sound rude or what, but just clarifying from my point of view

    Cheers!
    have a face to face talk and yet say u have a life? haha pls make up your mind. your life is probably not worth mentioning anyway. but seriously you are alittle entertaining. pls go on. make my day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candycaine View Post
    TS,


    Since you harp on the fact that you are a student, student, student, I really do have to say this. I am a student too. I am the same age as you. And you think my parents spoil me? Fat chance. Anything I buy for my camera comes from my savings/money that I earn by myself. Just to let you know, I have been saving up for a new lens for MONTHS already, in case you're wondering.

    Being a student isn't an excuse to be a reckless buyer. As students, we have limited money to spend, so all the more every purchase must be made with the greatest consideration. If the seller has to rush off, then deal another day. What's wrong with that? If the seller refuses to deal another day, then find another seller, simple as that. Until you hand over the money, the seller has no leverage over you so to speak. 5 minutes is barely enough to inspect a lens. For someone who repeatedly re-enforces the fact that he is a student with little disposable income, you ought to know better before splashing your cash.

    You are lucky enough that the seller gave a personal warranty and a refund. By right, the seller has no need to do so. So before you get fired out, think. You are LUCKY to get your money back. Otherwise, YOU would be the one spending even more money sending the lens to CSC for repairs, chalking up an even greater bill.

    Most importantly, you have no concrete proof the seller sold you a faulty lens. The seller could, in fact, have sold you a perfectly fine lens, but something you did, be it accidental or intentional, caused the lens to have problems. Why not. Don't be so quick to blame others.


    You can already count yourself lucky in this situation. Stop trying to milk sympathy when there is none to be had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LBL2009 View Post
    17 years old student's thread brings out many lecturers.
    i think he must be 19 years old student, then will be immune...

    i don't recall being lectured that much when i was a 19 year old student in clubsnap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limsgp View Post
    If you cannot afford it, don't take up the hobby. If you decided to take up the hobby, don't expect pple to give you concessions just because you're a student or not earning income.
    agreed.
    when i was a 17 year old, i don't even have a camera.
    either plan for it financially, or stay out of this hobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candycaine View Post
    TS,


    Since you harp on the fact that you are a student, student, student, I really do have to say this. I am a student too. I am the same age as you. And you think my parents spoil me? Fat chance. Anything I buy for my camera comes from my savings/money that I earn by myself. Just to let you know, I have been saving up for a new lens for MONTHS already, in case you're wondering.

    Being a student isn't an excuse to be a reckless buyer. As students, we have limited money to spend, so all the more every purchase must be made with the greatest consideration. If the seller has to rush off, then deal another day. What's wrong with that? If the seller refuses to deal another day, then find another seller, simple as that. Until you hand over the money, the seller has no leverage over you so to speak. 5 minutes is barely enough to inspect a lens. For someone who repeatedly re-enforces the fact that he is a student with little disposable income, you ought to know better before splashing your cash.

    You are lucky enough that the seller gave a personal warranty and a refund. By right, the seller has no need to do so. So before you get fired out, think. You are LUCKY to get your money back. Otherwise, YOU would be the one spending even more money sending the lens to CSC for repairs, chalking up an even greater bill.

    Most importantly, you have no concrete proof the seller sold you a faulty lens. The seller could, in fact, have sold you a perfectly fine lens, but something you did, be it accidental or intentional, caused the lens to have problems. Why not. Don't be so quick to blame others.


    You can already count yourself lucky in this situation. Stop trying to milk sympathy when there is none to be had.


    Firstly, I would like to talk about my objective of actually starting this thread, as my post have been misleading to all. I actually wanted to ask how I should deal with this situation if he ask me for money for the repair of lens(I guess I didn't make it clear at all)

    Secondly, I didn't harp that I was a student, I was merely saying that as he was a working adult and I am a student, that he had to complain to me about buying the rear lens cap which cost just $5. The reason why I said it again, was because many of the replies came to me that I was a student no excuse..blah blah blah the list can go on and on.

    Yes like you I also went through the same process of saving up for my lens, Just finally upgraded my kit lens to a sigma 18-250 which I had saved for 6months and finally got it as the price was right. and took me a few months as well to save up for the 50mm prime after the large investment I made on the lens

    I would just like to say that after reading such good reviews and all about the lens, I guess I was very impatient which blinded my sight as I had some events which required me to have the 50mm with me over the weekend and the next meet-up which he could do was on monday(In which my event would already be over)

    And no, I wasn't trying to milk sympathy, if I were, I would rather be doing that to my parents for it, what's the use of sympathy on forums? I don't know you, you don't know me.

    And yes, I have no concrete proof about the faulty lens, and neither does the seller(If I am not wrong he was helping his friend to sell) but I did for a matter of a fact, took really good care of the lens as I said, it meant something to me, and frankly speaking, who can spoil a lens in a mere day? maybe a 3year old.but one things for sure, it isn't me. And just to say again.

    My main purpose of actually starting this thread is because I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT I COULD DO IN THIS SITUATION IF HE ASKED ME FOR MONEY. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limsgp View Post
    well.. for the fact that you returned instead of a "hit-and-run", that's a positive aspect.



    ok, Please, don't use "is a student" or "no income" kind of reasoning to justify any ranting or displeasure over any sum of money.

    If you cannot afford it, don't take up the hobby. If you decided to take up the hobby, don't expect pple to give you concessions just because you're a student or not earning income.

    It is Still MONEY even if the other members are earning a salary. Drawing a salary doesn't make the MONEY bigger or smaller.

    Drawing a salary doesn't make the $5(or any amount) worth Less! Please take note of this FACT.

    Also, Those earning salary needs the money to give/support the other members of the family who doesn't EARN a salary too.
    Like I said in my previous post(please refer above)

    Everyone has to start from somewhere, and I'm starting small, I'm sure it's okay.

    well yes, of course it is still indeed MONEY, but what's your spending power? I know I'm not able to spend like many getting the bigger lenses(so I start small which may actually mean the same thing if you were to get an L lens)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVlarcus View Post


    Firstly, I would like to talk about my objective of actually starting this thread, as my post have been misleading to all. I actually wanted to ask how I should deal with this situation if he ask me for money for the repair of lens(I guess I didn't make it clear at all)

    Secondly, I didn't harp that I was a student, I was merely saying that as he was a working adult and I am a student, that he had to complain to me about buying the rear lens cap which cost just $5. The reason why I said it again, was because many of the replies came to me that I was a student no excuse..blah blah blah the list can go on and on.

    Yes like you I also went through the same process of saving up for my lens, Just finally upgraded my kit lens to a sigma 18-250 which I had saved for 6months and finally got it as the price was right. and took me a few months as well to save up for the 50mm prime after the large investment I made on the lens

    I would just like to say that after reading such good reviews and all about the lens, I guess I was very impatient which blinded my sight as I had some events which required me to have the 50mm with me over the weekend and the next meet-up which he could do was on monday(In which my event would already be over)

    And no, I wasn't trying to milk sympathy, if I were, I would rather be doing that to my parents for it, what's the use of sympathy on forums? I don't know you, you don't know me.

    And yes, I have no concrete proof about the faulty lens, and neither does the seller(If I am not wrong he was helping his friend to sell) but I did for a matter of a fact, took really good care of the lens as I said, it meant something to me, and frankly speaking, who can spoil a lens in a mere day? maybe a 3year old.but one things for sure, it isn't me. And just to say again.

    My main purpose of actually starting this thread is because I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT I COULD DO IN THIS SITUATION IF HE ASKED ME FOR MONEY. Thanks
    if he ask for the money? pay the $5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVlarcus View Post
    Firstly, I would like to talk about my objective of actually starting this thread, as my post have been misleading to all. I actually wanted to ask how I should deal with this situation if he ask me for money for the repair of lens(I guess I didn't make it clear at all)

    My main purpose of actually starting this thread is because I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT I COULD DO IN THIS SITUATION IF HE ASKED ME FOR MONEY. Thanks
    simple, you can just say no, if it is indeed true that nothing was done to damage the lens on your part.

    is it that hard to just ask a simple question without beating about the bush?

    at most, if you had not given back the rear lens cap, you can pay for it. if you had handed back the lens to him as received, then you can choose not to pay.
    Last edited by night86mare; 15th October 2010 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahbian View Post
    While it is good to be responsible financially and not wanting to take spending for granted. It is just an important to be responsible for your other decisions and actions.

    At any point before the sale, you could called off the deal if you are not comfortable, but you still chose to go ahead with it.

    You keep harping on the money,but if I understood you correctly, you have received a full refund, so I struggle to see where your loss is. I hope you are not referring to your travel costs and time spent to meet the buyer.
    Yes you are right on that.

    Like I said again, I only had 5mins with the lens(refer to post(s) above) and the problems only started to show after using the lens for awhile(in my case during the event)

    Yes I did recieve a full refund, and that brings me back to my main objective, WHAT SHOULD I DO IF HE ASKED ME to pay the repair? Anyway he has already apologized to me and I really want to let the matter rest already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyfrog View Post
    if he ask for the money? pay the $5.
    Ok noted.

    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    simple, you can just say no, if it is indeed true that nothing was done to damage the lens on your part.

    is it that hard to just ask a simple question without beating about the bush?

    at most, if you had not given back the rear lens cap, you can pay for it. if you had handed back the lens to him as received, then you can choose not to pay.

    Yes it is simple, but it may not be simple ALL the time. What if some sellers demand that I pay? That brings me back to the main objective

    yes I returned everything that he had passed me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVlarcus View Post

    well yes, of course it is still indeed MONEY, but what's your spending power? I know I'm not able to spend like many getting the bigger lenses(so I start small which may actually mean the same thing if you were to get an L lens)
    Yes a working adult *usually* has more money on hand.. but that doesn't mean that it is a negligible or insignificant sum of money. And it's not accurate to say that $5 meant more to you than other working adult.

    The many guys at CS are not like those who donate millions to MBS or RWS. To those pple, maybe $5 is nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVlarcus View Post
    Yes you are right on that.

    Like I said again, I only had 5mins with the lens(refer to post(s) above) and the problems only started to show after using the lens for awhile(in my case during the event)

    Yes I did recieve a full refund, and that brings me back to my main objective, WHAT SHOULD I DO IF HE ASKED ME to pay the repair? Anyway he has already apologized to me and I really want to let the matter rest already.

    You want to know what to do if he asked for the repair (ie. a hypothetical situation), but you want to let the matter rest. The statement doesn't seem to make logical sense.

    Ultimately he did not ask you to pay. So what's the issue?

    Furthermore, you can claim to have taken exquisite care of the lens, but unless you have proof of that, then as far as the record goes, the lens was deemed to be fine at the point of transaction, only after which a fault was discovered. In all honesty, you don't have much of a case.

    Lastly, the "cool story bro" image annoys the hell out of me. All it tells me is that you are barely sincere about letting the matter rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathann View Post
    have a face to face talk and yet say u have a life? haha pls make up your mind. your life is probably not worth mentioning anyway. but seriously you are alittle entertaining. pls go on. make my day.

    You should stop throwing away your dignity.
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    the entertainment never ends. more pls TS. make my weekend too. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathann View Post
    the entertainment never ends. more pls TS. make my weekend too. =)
    I think you should stop flaming the TS before the mods step in and you are making yourself look bad here too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVlarcus View Post
    but thought to myself, maybe all of this prime lens model was made like that as it was a cheap lens.

    I mean he is a WORKING ADULT, whereas I'm a 17 year old STUDENT who is still studying and he has to rant to me about a rear lens cap that cost him $5 as well?
    Dude. Firstly you said it was cheap. So to you, $100+/- is cheap for an 'assumed faulty lens', okay fair enough maybe you're from a financially stable family.

    Then you go on to make a comment about $5, and how much it has bothered and hurt you. Contradiction much?

    Nevermind. but this line "whereas I'm a 17 year old STUDENT who is still studying" really sia suay us fellow students. Dont know about you. But i've always tried to not emphasis or even mention that i'm a student. Allows my viewers and current/potential clients to take me more seriously. 2 cents for you.

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    TS, since seller has clarified and there is no further monetary damage done to you, suggest to close this thread and move on.
    Every individuals has their own thinking and interpretation of matter. Hope u realized u r in a one-man camp, u r being bombard from all directions. Unless u like it this way and want to practice yr English, carry on.
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