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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroDivine View Post
    suspect will be same as the 24 1.4 and 85 1.4
    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Don't guess, you'll be disappointed if it turns out differently... frankly as long as it works okay, I don't think matters. 17-35 was a popular lens only that its motor will break down according to users, even though it's on the large SWM... so what gives? Just be glad your motor doesn't go, even if it's on a small piece...
    at least i know the repair cost will be lower if it does breaks down
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    Default Re: Nikon Does not tell you all the truth of SWM Silent Wave Motor?

    Great research & writeup. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerpot View Post
    at least i know the repair cost will be lower if it does breaks down
    Arrrrh heck, don't scare me! I have two lenses on large SWM!
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    Default Re: Nikon Does not tell you all the truth of SWM Silent Wave Motor?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroDivine View Post
    another thing is I am surprised they include the 'slower' motor in the 24 1.4, 85 1.4, both of which high end prime lens which deserve better motors.
    interesting decision by Nikon. Maybe someone can go and email them to ask about this disparity
    the first thing i wonder after i saw this post as well.

    But great post! pictures are always nice

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    I wonder whether the compact DC motor fits the the ultrasonic motor category, which nikon states so. I think it's easy to tell because conventional DC motor has a permanent magnet and ultrasonic one shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroDivine View Post
    another thing is I am surprised they include the 'slower' motor in the 24 1.4, 85 1.4, both of which high end prime lens which deserve better motors.
    interesting decision by Nikon. Maybe someone can go and email them to ask about this disparity
    Quote Originally Posted by giantcanopy View Post
    the first thing i wonder after i saw this post as well.

    But great post! pictures are always nice

    ryan
    it could be a physical design limitation
    not always possible to put the best parts into a product if the parts just dun fit as well or work as expected ?
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    Default Re: Nikon Does not tell you all the truth of SWM Silent Wave Motor?

    Quote Originally Posted by giantcanopy View Post
    the first thing i wonder after i saw this post as well.

    But great post! pictures are always nice

    ryan
    agree, Great effort

    allows us to understand a little more why some AF faster some slower despite all being term as AFS
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    Default Re: Nikon Does not tell you all the truth of SWM Silent Wave Motor?

    Quote Originally Posted by mousedeers View Post
    12-24mm F2.8 AFS FF lens
    This should be 14-24 right?
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    thanks for sharing.. smaller motor =/= lower repair cost.. I think...
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    That's informative John .. Tks
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    2 AF-S 85/1.4G 微型
    3 AF-S 24/1.4G ED 微型


    These two comes as a surprise for the price we pay..

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    nice info..

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    Default Re: Nikon Does not tell you all the truth of SWM Silent Wave Motor?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroDivine View Post
    another thing is I am surprised they include the 'slower' motor in the 24 1.4, 85 1.4, both of which high end prime lens which deserve better motors.
    interesting decision by Nikon. Maybe someone can go and email them to ask about this disparity
    if Nikon slapped a faster motor, these lenses will probably be too expensive

    @ TS, thanks for sharing. Very informative. Should this thread be stickied?
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    thanks for sharing =)

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    Thanks for the sharing the info. I am sure Nikon had considered cost as a factor as well as the size. Tell me which company doesn't want to maximize profits?

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    Tried the 24 1.4 G and 85 1.4 G at NSC.

    Focus is not horribly slow as it may seem to be like.

    Also, from a user pov, those using D300 and D700 will need to use EN-EL4 or 8 AAs on their MB-D10 to acquire maximum AF speed, even if it's a non AF-D lens. Try it for yourself.

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    but the contradicting thing is the lousier SWMs in the 24mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.4 is so much faster then the better SWM in the AFS 50mm.. Go try them in NCS..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega23 View Post
    but the contradicting thing is the lousier SWMs in the 24mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.4 is so much faster then the better SWM in the AFS 50mm.. Go try them in NCS..
    I think there are other considerations that we don't know of in the design. It is not the bigger the better right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alantkh View Post
    I think there are other considerations that we don't know of in the design. It is not the bigger the better right?
    i nv say bigger is better.. but for lenses they are usually bigger the better

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    Default Re: Nikon Does not tell you all the truth of SWM Silent Wave Motor?

    Three years back,

    The cost to change Ring-Type motor on the 17-35mm F2.8 is $735 Sing$.

    The cost changing the Ring-Type motor of the AFS 80-200mm F2.8 the cost is $835 Sing$.

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