About bounce flash

revenant · 27th May 2002

Then some kind soul can tell me about bounce flash? Like they say bounce off the ceiling, off here off there etc. What does that actually means? Point the external flash to the ceiling?

ckiang · 27th May 2002

Yup. Or wall. Add an optional bounce card to the flash head to reflect some light back to the subject to fill in shadows and produce a catch-light on the subject's eyes.

Regards
CK

27th May 2002

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Originally posted by revenant
Then some kind soul can tell me about bounce flash? Like they say bounce off the ceiling, off here off there etc. What does that actually means? Point the external flash to the ceiling?

It is really pointing the flash toward the wall or celling,

maybe you can try this few thread first:

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...t=bounce+flash
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...ght=flash+sync

If you do a search you may find more :P

revenant · 27th May 2002

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Originally posted by ckiang
Yup. Or wall. Add an optional bounce card to the flash head to reflect some light back to the subject to fill in shadows and produce a catch-light on the subject's eyes.

Regards
CK

thanks, any pictures of bounce card?

revenant · 27th May 2002

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Originally posted by Trevor_Tan

It is really pointing the flash toward the wall or celling,

maybe you can try this few thread first:

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...t=bounce+flash
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthrea...ght=flash+sync

If you do a search you may find more :P

ok thanx

megaweb · 27th May 2002

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Originally posted by revenant

thanks, any pictures of bounce card?

revenant · 27th May 2002

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Originally posted by megaweb

thanks, understood.

28th May 2002

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Originally posted by revenant

ok thanx

No problem, but theory is still theory. When come to the real thing, you will face other problems. I just manage to borrow a speed light and using the defuser, the pocket bouncer, bounce here and there still sometime got a nasty and strong shadows fall on the wall

. Need lots of practices.

I still don't know when to use what

Anyway below is what I gather after using the flash. Most likely is not correct, but hope some expert can correct me.

When to use a defuser?
Indoor, with ceiling to bounce the flash.

When to use direct flash?
Almost neve, unless when object is quite a distance and there is nothing behind it to case a shadow. (note even a wall at 2m behind the object also can have the object's shadow)

When to use bounce card?
Both indoor and outdoor, combine with ceiling bounce. for Outdoor, turn the flash head to 90 degree and the bounce card at 45 degree

When to use the ProMax Pocket Bouncer
When there is no ceiling to bounce. best for outdoor.

I also note that I can't take picture from low angle (shoot upward) when using flash, will cast a shadow on wall and even ceiling. Don't know how to solve this problem. BTW I'm using Matrix TTL mode on both camera and flash.

Sorry revenant, borrowed your thread

revenant · 28th May 2002

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Originally posted by Trevor_Tan

Sorry revenant, borrowed your thread

No problem, I can learn at the same time too.

Anyway, what's a defuser?

Also, is it possible to make a bounce card with cardboard?

Larry · 29th May 2002

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Originally posted by revenant
No problem, I can learn at the same time too.

Anyway, what's a defuser?

Also, is it possible to make a bounce card with cardboard?

think what he means by defuser is the Omni-Bounce, the white plastic cap that fits on top of the flash unit.

as for making a bounce card, that's what most people do actually. all you need is a nice stiff white cardboard or plastic card and a rubber band. or if you don't want to fiddle around with a rubber band, can use a velcro strap, but have to live with the velcro on the flash.

29th May 2002

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Originally posted by firefox13
think what he means by defuser is the Omni-Bounce, the white plastic cap that fits on top of the flash unit.

as for making a bounce card, that's what most people do actually. all you need is a nice stiff white cardboard or plastic card and a rubber band. or if you don't want to fiddle around with a rubber band, can use a velcro strap, but have to live with the velcro on the flash.

Thanks for helping me answer the questions. Isn't defuser = Omni Bounce? Or I use the wrong term?

darr · 29th May 2002

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Originally posted by Trevor_Tan

Thanks for helping me answer the questions. Isn't defuser = Omni Bounce? Or I use the wrong term?

diffuser, yes correct they are the same thing

ckiang · 29th May 2002

OT, but I realised something very interesting. The word "diffuser" was originally misspelled as "defuser" and everyone followed suit....

Regards
CK

mpenza · 29th May 2002

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Originally posted by ckiang
OT, but I realised something very interesting. The word "diffuser" was originally misspelled as "defuser" and everyone followed suit....

Regards
CK

haha! you created a new photography term!

30th May 2002

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Originally posted by ckiang
OT, but I realised something very interesting. The word "diffuser" was originally misspelled as "defuser" and everyone followed suit....

Regards
CK

Sorry, my fault

Me very poor in spelling, writing and talking. Hence I choose my hobby as photography and hopefully a job as a programmer

Larry · 30th May 2002

i think in official lingo it refers to the phenomenon known as "Monkey See Monkey Do"

ckiang · 30th May 2002

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Originally posted by Trevor_Tan

Sorry, my fault
Me very poor in spelling, writing and talking. Hence I choose my hobby as photography and hopefully a job as a programmer

That's okay, but it's interesting to see others following suit.

Regards
CK

Wai · 30th May 2002

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Originally posted by ckiang
OT, but I realised something very interesting. The word "diffuser" was originally misspelled as "defuser" and everyone followed suit....

Regards
CK

i was abt to post this too when i am reading....i tot defuser only use in counterstrike by counter-terroist??

DanielG · 17th June 2002

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Originally posted by firefox13
think what he means by defuser is the Omni-Bounce, the white plastic cap that fits on top of the flash unit.

as for making a bounce card, that's what most people do actually. all you need is a nice stiff white cardboard or plastic card and a rubber band. or if you don't want to fiddle around with a rubber band, can use a velcro strap, but have to live with the velcro on the flash.

Generally, how big should a bounce card be? Does it have to be perfectly white?

mpenza · 17th June 2002

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Originally posted by DanielG

Generally, how big should a bounce card be? Does it have to be perfectly white?

someone, I think roygoh, suggested using crumpled aluminium sheet which works better than most white surface.

27th May 2002	#1
revenant Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,239	About bounce flash Then some kind soul can tell me about bounce flash? Like they say bounce off the ceiling, off here off there etc. What does that actually means? Point the external flash to the ceiling?

27th May 2002	#2
ckiang Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,597	Yup. Or wall. Add an optional bounce card to the flash head to reflect some light back to the subject to fill in shadows and produce a catch-light on the subject's eyes. Regards CK

29th May 2002	#13
ckiang Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,597	OT, but I realised something very interesting. The word "diffuser" was originally misspelled as "defuser" and everyone followed suit.... Regards CK

30th May 2002	#16
Larry Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: singapore Posts: 6,097	i think in official lingo it refers to the phenomenon known as "Monkey See Monkey Do"