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    Default Re: Do insect shooters prefer manual focusing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diavonex View Post
    You can try shooting with a P&S camera with a small sensor.
    Pns can capture the whole insect???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    Interesting... is it possible the insect will not move and let the photographer take so many shots that they can stack it up????
    It depends on your luck . . .
    I got a chance to shoot a locust for some time and it don't move even if you try to 'tickle' it.
    Another is a hopper which will just stay near the same leaf and not jump away.
    Others may just disappear even before you make your first shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weegk View Post
    It depends on your luck . . .
    I got a chance to shoot a locust for some time and it don't move even if you try to 'tickle' it.
    Another is a hopper which will just stay near the same leaf and not jump away.
    Others may just disappear even before you make your first shot.
    Wah.... so lucky.... I see insects, and I raised my macro lens and they flew off... did you tip toe while they were asleep???
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    Default Re: Do insect shooters prefer manual focusing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    Pns can capture the whole insect???
    P&S cameras have much wider DOF than DSLR because of the small sensor.

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    Default Re: Do insect shooters prefer manual focusing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diavonex View Post
    P&S cameras have much wider DOF than DSLR because of the small sensor.
    OIC..... interesting... I seldom use PNS so I was not aware of this.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    Interesting... is it possible the insect will not move and let the photographer take so many shots that they can stack it up????
    Yes, possible if you understand the insect and do not scare it off. Using a longer lens in this case is much better as you have a longer working distance and do not have to go near.
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    I not that skillful so always use tripod, live-view and MF. Shoot only still insects practically all the time. If there's lots of activity in an area (like ants), then compose for a specific spot and use remote, pray n wait for subject to come into area of interest (focus) then fire off.

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    Bro for mi I uses AF macro mode when i am using LX3 with raynox 202/505. Now even i use it on my Fz30 with 250....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    Wah.... so lucky.... I see insects, and I raised my macro lens and they flew off... did you tip toe while they were asleep???
    don't need to tip toe, just walk slowly to them . . . they are not scared of you actually.
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    Default Re: Do insect shooters prefer manual focusing?

    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    Yes, possible if you understand the insect and do not scare it off. Using a longer lens in this case is much better as you have a longer working distance and do not have to go near.
    Is 100mm on crop considered as long???

    If shooting multiple shots, you need tripod for it right???
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    Quote Originally Posted by weegk View Post
    don't need to tip toe, just walk slowly to them . . . they are not scared of you actually.
    I thought must learn "Qing Kong" some more... lol.....

    Maybe I am still new and did not do enough study on this insects yet.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    Is 100mm on crop considered as long???
    100mm on 1.5 crop is 150mm
    100mm on 1.6 crop is 160mm

    The main issue is actually the working distance.

    I'll use a Tamron 90 vs Tamron 180 for example here.

    Tamron 90, MFD = 29cm to image plane (based on a lens length of 9.7cm, you'd have about 19.3cm of working distance) Note one more important detail, this lens is not IF, so it does extend out when focusing to MFD, your working distance should be much shorter than this.

    Tamron 180, MFD = 47cm to image plane (based on a lens length of 17.8cm, you'd have about 29.2cm of working distance)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    I thought must learn "Qing Kong" some more... lol.....

    Maybe I am still new and did not do enough study on this insects yet.....
    You need to understand more about them and how they are affected by various factors, i.e. some are sensitive to light, some to sound and some are sensitive to smell.

    Thus, most insect shooters tend to avoid wearing white, insect repellant and not to talk too loudly or stomp on the ground too much.
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    Default Re: Do insect shooters prefer manual focusing?

    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    You need to understand more about them and how they are affected by various factors, i.e. some are sensitive to light, some to sound and some are sensitive to smell.

    Thus, most insect shooters tend to avoid wearing white, insect repellant and not to talk too loudly or stomp on the ground too much.
    Thanks for your tips bro.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    100mm on 1.5 crop is 150mm
    100mm on 1.6 crop is 160mm

    The main issue is actually the working distance.

    I'll use a Tamron 90 vs Tamron 180 for example here.

    Tamron 90, MFD = 29cm to image plane (based on a lens length of 9.7cm, you'd have about 19.3cm of working distance) Note one more important detail, this lens is not IF, so it does extend out when focusing to MFD, your working distance should be much shorter than this.

    Tamron 180, MFD = 47cm to image plane (based on a lens length of 17.8cm, you'd have about 29.2cm of working distance)
    Ok... I do not know the working distance actually... have to find out....
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    Usually for me, I manual focus the lens to nearest focusing distance and move my camera front and back to obtain the best focused shot

    PS : its not easy when very near coz the handshake is magnified with near subjects....

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    Default Re: Do insect shooters prefer manual focusing?

    Quote Originally Posted by farbird View Post
    Usually for me, I manual focus the lens to nearest focusing distance and move my camera front and back to obtain the best focused shot

    PS : its not easy when very near coz the handshake is magnified with near subjects....
    Better done with a tripod and a macro slide rail.

    Provided the insect doesn't move off during the focusing time.
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