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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSS_2 View Post
    are you reading correctly? see http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=98

    your black chicken again?


    totally missed the point.... as usual.



    ok la, don't play with you already. is not very nice. bye!
    Last edited by night86mare; 10th November 2010 at 11:09 AM.

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    So sad.

    The results of the appeal is out.

    http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring...19-248066.html

    No jail for driver who hit cyclist and didn't stop

    By Chong Shin Yen

    SHE was fined $800 for failing to help a cyclist she had hit.

    The prosecution appealed to the High Court, asking for the driver, Cleopatra Wong Yuin Ping, 30, to be given a jail term instead.

    But Judge of Appeal Chao Hick Tin dismissed the appeal.

    Wong had earlier said that when she heard the impact, she thought it was a rotten tree branch that had fallen on the car.

    Deputy Public Prosecutor Christopher Ong said yesterday that imprisonment "was the norm" for those who had failed to render assistance after an accident.

    DPP Ong had argued that her fine for that charge was inadequate and that the District Judge should have given her a jail term.

    He pointed out that in previous similar cases, the sentences have been generally a few weeks' imprisonment.

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    She thought cyclist was a tree branch
    In addition, Wong's claim about how she thought the impact had been caused by a falling tree branch was merely her "bare assertions".

    But Justice Chao noted that when the case was heard in the District Court, the prosecutor at that time had not raised any objections to Wong's mitigation plea or challenged her assertions.

    Quit teaching

    Wong was a teacher at the time of the accident but she has since quit.

    She was driving her father's Lexus ES300 when she rammed into a cyclist along Holland Road around 5.15am on Oct 19, 2008.

    The impact caused the cyclist, Mr Muhammad Asri Aris, 19, to be flung onto the windscreen before landing on the left side of the road. The windscreen was cracked as a result.

    Wong heard a bang and looked in that direction. But thinking that it was a rotten tree branch that had fallen, she did not stop and continued driving home.

    She was also unaware that the victim's bicycle was stuck in the undercarriage of the car.

    The bicycle was dragged for about 2km, until the junction of Holland Road and Leedon Road, before it was dislodged.

    Mr Muhammad Asri was warded for two days with a fractured left shoulder, a cut on his forehead and multiple abrasions.

    He was also given medical leave for about a month.

    Wong had earlier gone to Zouk to look for her cousin, who had not returned home. Her cousin was staying with her family then.

    In her mitigation, Wong said that she heard some sounds at the rear but because the sound-proofing of the Lexus was so good, she thought that the sounds were caused by the tree branch.

    In sentencing Wong in August, the District Judge had said it was possible that the shadows from the canopy of trees would have had an impact on Wong's line of sight, resulting in her mistaken assumption about the "object" that struck her windscreen.

    Wong had said that she was travelling at 60kmh at the time.

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    This is ridiculous. I have totally no faith in our legal system anymore.

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    Is there anything we can do?

    So this is end of our legal process? ****!

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    I suppose law works like this, whoever argues the best, wins. If you fail to object the defence, then the defence is not wrong. If I kill someone intentionally and say I thought it was a mannequin and the prosecution does not object that, then I am not wrong to kill someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brapodam View Post
    I suppose law works like this, whoever argues the best, wins. If you fail to object the defence, then the defence is not wrong. If I kill someone intentionally and say I thought it was a mannequin and the prosecution does not object that, then I am not wrong to kill someone.
    why is our public prosecutor sooo bad then???

    where is all our tax payers money gone? Does it mean if you are rich and hire a better lawyer you can get off with $2400 for hit and run???

    Then where is the deterent in our laws? does it mean lexus drivers can knock people down and drive away? What is $2400 to them...

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    Default Re: Lexus driver bang cyclist, drag bycycle for 2km, fine $2500..

    I told ya, even if I'm the judge, I would have believed her, cos she is a woman, and that's how most of them drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit6003 View Post
    I told ya, even if I'm the judge, I would have believed her, cos she is a woman, and that's how most of them drive.
    The appeal is not about the accident but how she drove away without giving aid, ie hit and run. I think the punishment for hit and run must be very high. Accident sometimes its not intentional but due to poor driving skills but hit and run...

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    simply jail her. Best jail her for life. For god sake.

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    Default Re: Lexus driver bang cyclist, drag bycycle for 2km, fine $2500..

    What the...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit6003 View Post
    I told ya, even if I'm the judge, I would have believed her, cos she is a woman, and that's how most of them drive.
    In that case you should ban all females from driving, no? Otherwise one day some reckless driver will run you down and she's gonna get away with a 2.5k fine while you suck thumb in the hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brapodam View Post
    In that case you should ban all females from driving, no? Otherwise one day some reckless driver will run you down and she's gonna get away with a 2.5k fine while you suck thumb in the hospital.
    ok.. simply jail those whom hit and run. Best jail them for life. For god sake

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    Default Re: Lexus driver bang cyclist, drag bycycle for 2km, fine $2500..

    Quote Originally Posted by redstone View Post
    What the...
    the cyclist should count himself lucky the lady dint go after him for damages caused to her Lexus.

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    since this is a photo forum.

    NPNT.

    Treebranchdriver.jpg That is how asiaone website named the jpeg


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    Default Re: Lexus driver bang cyclist, drag bycycle for 2km, fine $2500..

    did the transcript mentioned the model of the car? if its a lexus rx300, the driver must be this auntie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwitan View Post
    the cyclist should count himself lucky the lady dint go after him for damages caused to her Lexus.
    the cyclist should count himself lucky the lady didnt drag him to death...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alantkh View Post
    In her mitigation, Wong said that she heard some sounds at the rear but because the sound-proofing of the Lexus was so good, she thought that the sounds were caused by the tree branch.
    Woohooo! next time I can go on a rampage in a Lexus and plea innocent because I couldn't see what I hit nor hear what I am dragging behind!


    Quote Originally Posted by alantkh View Post
    In sentencing Wong in August, the District Judge had said it was possible that the shadows from the canopy of trees would have had an impact on Wong's line of sight, resulting in her mistaken assumption about the "object" that struck her windscreen.

    Wong had said that she was travelling at 60kmh at the time.
    If she is really THAT blind, she ought to be barred from driving permanently because she IS a road hazard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erlimst View Post
    Woohooo! next time I can go on a rampage in a Lexus and plea innocent because I couldn't see what I hit nor hear what I am dragging behind!




    If she is really THAT blind, she ought to be barred from driving permanently because she IS a road hazard.
    If she is really THAT DUMB, she ought to be taken off the road

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    Default Re: Lexus driver bang cyclist, drag bycycle for 2km, fine $2500..

    Such a light sentence... should at least jail a week or two, pay the guy's medical fees

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    here, this goes beyond cycling on the road with other vehicle users. the cyclist was also cycling in the middle of the road. i think anyone here who has driven in singapore would agree with me that that's a bad idea from anyone's point of view.
    Actually, if the cyclist was really cycling in the middle of the road, the driver should have seen him correct?

    "The impact caused the cyclist, Mr Muhammad Asri Aris, 19, to be flung onto the windscreen before landing on the left side of the road. The windscreen was cracked as a result.

    Wong heard a bang and looked in that direction." - CNA

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