Last edited by Sion; 26th September 2010 at 12:48 AM.
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I am not saying he is a bad person or that he has ill feelings or something. I am seriously asking a honest question. Yes it is true that I think i should have censored his acc name instead of posting the full thing up, so in that sense I will delete this thread.
But do understand that what i question is the way he put it
eg: what he mean that if he show me his portfolio then I dun shoot with him how?
and things like "dunno how to work with me??" Isnt this a personal attack? Not as if im very sensitive. I just find it ridiculous ehhh. Every opportunity is a chance to work with a new photographer/model. Can means can, cannot means cannot. But even so, dunnit to say until like that right?
I admit Im not the best looking of all model. Just any other normal girl who is keen to take up freelancing as a hobby. But still, if the usual sop is to check out each other's portfolio, why not? Second thing is - I told him le (as i once copy pasted) by checking out the photographer's portfolio is also to see if I have the ability to meet his/my expectations in a shoot.
That is all right?
To be honest, all I needed was to find out "what is wrong to see his portfolio?" especially when he claims he won lots of awards. Definitely aint doubting him. Just interested. But instead of telling, no im not comfortable with showing my portfolio unless to really interested model or whatever the condition, he just shoot me back as if im trying to be skeptical about him.
To his friends, please do relate this to him. Thanks. In fact, broken english isnt the issue, it can be understood as a whole text. Rather, it was the meaning behind the things he say that I cannot comprehend.
Last edited by baggiolee; 26th September 2010 at 02:40 AM.
No matter which pretty xmm he has taken, surely by contacting the TS, he has shown interest in her look one way or another.
Just a thought, if he can spend the effort to write to ask for TFCD, what's stopping him from clarifying his own reputation here.
TS please be careful.
moreover, it was TS who put an Ad for the TFCD, so by right, the PG should "offer" what they have, especially award winning PG with a decade of experience..
just like an employee (in this case the PG) offering a CV to a prospective employer (TS)..
note to mod, maybe this, after some censor, could be moved as sticky or smtngh to remind models/PGs that they have the very rights to exchange ports...
I.e. that providing a portfolio for TF is more or less the norm, there should be no pressure on the model to agree to the TF just because a portfolio has been shown (where did this concept come from...), trying to turn it around to get her to show him her portfolio... and possibly other things. Feel free to translate that into Chinese, or your language of choice, it still represents unreasonable and undesirable behaviour.
All of that is exclusive of the poor English (excusable) and bad manners (less excusable) that you've pointed out.
A TFCD suppose to benefit both parties, models has every right to see the portfolio of photographers before accepting any TFCD, and also agree what type shots will be creating before committing herself.
she can decline to take up the offer if she find the photographer's work will be beneficial towards her.
This photographer fail to understand this simple logic, can not take No as an answer, lack of manner, unable to handle this thing well.
Originally Posted by acdtssOriginally Posted by eventuallymineOriginally Posted by acdtssCan't understand u also, what u want see my port link is dun trustOriginally Posted by eventuallymineHi there,Originally Posted by acdtssIf let u see my portfolio already & dun let me photoshoot den whatOriginally Posted by eventuallymine^^ But ill still have to see your portfolio ehh~ Its alright, Ill let u know if ill still let you do the shoot. But Im more interested in paid shoots rather then tfcd. but no harm checking out your portfolio (:Originally Posted by acdtssHmm..wonder after u see my portfolio link will u let me photoshoot?Hi, irene come across CS saw u post for tfcd photoshoot..Hi there, do you have a portfolio for me to see?
Wonder u willing to be modelling to build up ur portfolio..?
I'm a photogrpher who got many yrs photography experience, have
won alots of trophy & prizes at photos competition..
Hope able to work with u soon.. have a nice days
is the point to show ? Have come across many models did that way
lols..nope good haha..so if a paid shoot dun need show u my
link wonder? Sorrie, i dun do paid shoot if every models asking for
pay & i give them guess i must be printting money lol haha rite?
Do think twice b4 disappointed, u will gain my experience skill dun
worrie..btw why not u show me ur port link instead?
I do not understand what you meant. Even CS indicates for all models that in the first stated recommendation:
"1. Look for a photographer WITH a Portfolio
To produce good images, you got to have a affinity with the photographer. Before agreeing to work with someone, view his portfolio first to get a rough idea on his style. If you like his style and ideas, there is a match! The likelihood of producing good photos is much higher as well. It would be even better if you two could work on a long term relationship to develop each other. In this industry, both the photographer and model will get equal recognition and rise up the same time. If your photographer becomes famous, most likely, you will become famous too!"
You can find this in the sticky thread. Photographers usually show us their portfolios and that is when we decide between a TFCD or a paid shoot. All this are determined between the model's ability to pose and the photographer's shooting skills. If you think that you are not comfortable with showing me your portfolio then I will not be agreeing on a shoot. And I am not particularly demanding for a paid shoot either. Check out that sticky thread please. Thanks.
me as a photographer? If so wonder how to working with u? lols..i
won't using point & shoot cam to photoshoot u for sure rite?
If u want asking for paid shoot, shld u show ur port link to me
instead? If dun have port link shld do more tfcd to build up ur link..
I able let u know my photography skill more den 10 over
yrs, how about u wonder how many yrs modelling experience?
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sneeze. i guess its a bad case of miscommunication?
photographers and models are investing time and effort to collaborate the shoot, both parties should able to get a set of portfolio worthy images, and also experience.
many photographers think since TFCD is free, so shouldn't be too demanding, this is not right.