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    Default Silent Wave like in Tokina ???

    Hi bro / Sis,
    I am considering to buy a Ultra Wide Angle Lens

    Looking At Nikon AF-S 10-24 mm DX VS Tokina AF 12-24mm F4 • AT-X 124 PRO DX II

    1) I am just wondering whether the tokina's AF will be the same feeling as the nikon's Silent Wave motor ?
    2) And when the lens are doing Auto focus does it have any external movement ?
    3) And Will the shortga eof 2mm make alot of different ? coz is double the price for nikon

    Any bro used the Tokina before ??


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    Last edited by fatBozZ; 19th September 2010 at 02:56 PM.
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    1) No idea because I never own these two lens yet but I'm also looking for one.
    2) Both lens don't have any external movement when doing AF.
    3) The 2mm difference will become 3mm on your 1.5 crop-factor camera D90. It would be significant for some people, but this is just personal preference.

    To add on, the Tokina one is made in Japan but the Nikon one is made in China. Also the price is not double. Just checked with CP few days ago that the Tokina one is selling at $939 due to appreciation of Jap Yen. Also checked with MS last week that the Nikon one is selling at $1350.

    Quote Originally Posted by fatBozZ View Post
    Hi bro / Sis,
    I am considering to buy a Ultra Wide Angle Lens

    Looking At Nikon AF-S 10-24 mm DX VS Tokina AF 12-24mm F4 AT-X 124 PRO DX II

    1) I am just wondering whether the tokina's AF will be the same feeling as the nikon's Silent Wave motor ?
    2) And when the lens are doing Auto focus does it have any external movement ?
    3) And Will the shortga eof 2mm make alot of different ? coz is double the price for nikon

    Any bro used the Tokina before ??


    Cheers
    Kent Wong Photography |Leica Q & Leica M-P 240 | 75 & 28mm Summilux

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentwong81 View Post
    1) No idea because I never own these two lens yet but I'm also looking for one.
    2) Both lens don't have any external movement when doing AF.
    3) The 2mm difference will become 3mm on your 1.5 crop-factor camera D90. It would be significant for some people, but this is just personal preference.

    To add on, the Tokina one is made in Japan but the Nikon one is made in China. Also the price is not double. Just checked with CP few days ago that the Tokina one is selling at $939 due to appreciation of Jap Yen. Also checked with MS last week that the Nikon one is selling at $1350.
    Thanks bro ... in that case from the stats u send me ... is more sensible to get the Tokina rather than Nikon right ?

    Pay cheaper yet is made in japan 3mm isnt that much to me .. coz i am not pro ... i just need a ultra wide for landscape in Singapore ..
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    Some claimed that the Nikon one has better optics to handle flares and CA than Tokina. I don't know yet because I never try these two lens. You cannot trust all until you try the lens yourself.

    There are other two alternatives:

    1) Nikon 12-24mm f/4, made in Japan, $1560 as quoted by MS last week
    2) Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8, made in Japan, $910 as quoted by artworkfoto

    I'm not considering Sigma because personally I have no confidence on their quality control. Depend on your price vs quality tolerance, I can't advise which one is the best for you. Maybe you can get a cheaper one from the 2nd hand market. Sell it next time if you find that it is not what you want. The loss won't be so significant compared to buying a new one.
    Kent Wong Photography |Leica Q & Leica M-P 240 | 75 & 28mm Summilux

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    If you're just using it for landscape around singapore, why does it matter to you if it uses an in-lens focusing system like the Nikon silent wave motor?
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    Default Re: Silent Wave like in Tokina ???

    Quote Originally Posted by kentwong81 View Post
    3) The 2mm difference will become 3mm on your 1.5 crop-factor camera D90. It would be significant for some people, but this is just personal preference.
    15 mm vs 18mm after conversion is a 20% difference
    shaddap and just shoot .... up close
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    If you're just using it for landscape around singapore, why does it matter to you if it uses an in-lens focusing system like the Nikon silent wave motor?
    Is just human .... Human beings are like that ... External Movement makes me feel uneasy ..

    i also dun know why
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    Verdict: TOKINA is the way to go ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatBozZ View Post
    Is just human .... Human beings are like that ... External Movement makes me feel uneasy ..
    i also dun know why
    Get these gut feelings under control and replaced by rational thinking. Can save you a lot of money. Similar to those who need a red ring around their lenses to feel well ..
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    Yes, after all, you need to find a balance between price and quality of lens, unless you have a lot of money dunno where to spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed9119 View Post
    15 mm vs 18mm after conversion is a 20% difference
    Yeah, the difference will be double up compared to the new Sigma 8-16mm.
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    Hmmmmm ... After testing out Both TOKINA 10 - 16mm / 12 - 24mm

    10-16mm f2.8 Perform better in low light ..



    Verdict: 12 - 24mm f4 Confirm

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    Default Re: Silent Wave like in Tokina ???

    Quote Originally Posted by fatBozZ View Post
    Hmmmmm ... After testing out Both TOKINA 10 - 16mm / 12 - 24mm

    10-16mm f2.8 Perform better in low light ..



    Verdict: 12 - 24mm f4 Confirm

    I think you mean 11-16mm/2.8

    there is no 10-16mm/2.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    I think you mean 11-16mm/2.8

    there is no 10-16mm/2.8
    Yes u are right ... too many numbers .... mixed up a little
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    Yeah, aperture f4.0 will struggle at low light. But it depend on what purpose you buy the wide angle lens for. If shooting landscape at night, I'll usually use tripod, so f4.0 is not an issue.
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    Default Re: Silent Wave like in Tokina ???

    Depending on what you shoot too. If you have a external flash, shouldn't be an issue.

    FYI, tokina 12-24 F4 has two version, one without motor and one with motor.

    I'm using the first version without motor. It will focus faster on my D90

    Do try out the lens before you purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B3nji16 View Post
    Depending on what you shoot too. If you have a external flash, shouldn't be an issue.

    FYI, tokina 12-24 F4 has two version, one without motor and one with motor.

    I'm using the first version without motor. It will focus faster on my D90

    Do try out the lens before you purchase.
    Motor ?? i thought is in-lens focus ?? " IF --> Internal Focus System

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatBozZ View Post
    Motor ?? i thought is in-lens focus ?? " IF --> Internal Focus System

    The focus motor can be in the lens, or it can be the camera focus motor focusing the lens via screw drive. This depends on the lens, and for Nikon, the body too (D40/60/3000/5000 have no in-body motor, so screw-driven lenses are manual focus only)
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatBozZ View Post
    Motor ?? i thought is in-lens focus ?? " IF --> Internal Focus System
    Internal focus means that during focusing no external part (front element, lens barrel) is moving (rotating, extending). Focus is achieved by moving internal parts (lens group). How this is achieved (either by lens-internal motor or in-body motor) is irrelevant.
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