24th May 2004, 01:02 PM
24th May 2004, 01:04 PM
It's not just flash. Everything to do with photography is expensive. This is a very expensive hobby and you just have to accept it.
24th May 2004, 01:11 PM
A hell lot of wizardry goes on inside that SB800, 550EX, etc. A lot of research goes into those wizardry. Similarly, even until now, DSLRs are considerably more expensive than their film counterparts.
Originally Posted by sfhuang
24th May 2004, 02:09 PM
24th May 2004, 02:23 PM
If you did not realise, a full-featured electronic flash also has an onboard computer (probably way smarter than the lens) to calculate the precise amount of light you need to have a good exposure. High-voltage capacitors and bulbs, zoom motor, sensors, LCDs, etc. all costs money, not to mention the R&D that went into producing the flash.
You can very well get a $20 Sunpak or Achiever flash but they won't have the same amount of light control compared to your SB800 or 550EX. Who says flashes are expensive?
24th May 2004, 02:34 PM
In other words you pay for technology and quality. It not just Canon or Nikon. Metz and some other brands cost a lot too. But in photography terms it's cheap compared to the camera body or lens.
24th May 2004, 02:59 PM
SB800 doesn't just "do wireless". it does wireless slave flash on different frequency channels with TTL metering.
Originally Posted by groupwest
24th May 2004, 03:14 PM
hi larry..dun mind me asking...so SB800 wireless slave flash only works with D' series nikon? hw abt film SLR?
Originally Posted by Larry
24th May 2004, 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by jbma
right man! $600+ will get you a tip top curry pot speedlite but you will only get a low-mid range body or lens for that amount....
24th May 2004, 03:23 PM
yup. SB800 only works for i-TTL enabled cameras, which currently is only the D70 and D2H... not even on D100 or the D1x/h
Originally Posted by satan_18349
24th May 2004, 03:29 PM
$200-$300 mark up......
FYI....since long long time ago.....there is this mark up price....on photographic equipment.....so for a $600 flash.....its true cost would probably about $200++....i believe....
As per the electronics in the flashes.....lets see....where the cost would come from...(imagine)
- flash tube....
- motor for motorised zoom head
- LCD panel
- infrared transmitter receivers...
- Basic flash circutry....
- high speed charge caps..or multi caps...for multi strobes...
- Brain juice...r&D
- POWER circuit...
- Reliability + Consistency.......
- communication channel from flash to body ...something like serial comms...
Flash to me is a portable SUN whcih you could carry around and it runs on batteries......and with better power management circuits nowadays....better battery life....
OT: The NIKON SD800DX looks very similar to the Minolta 5600HS(D)....maybe same maker......
24th May 2004, 04:33 PM
If they don't make the flash expensive, how can Japan GDP so high. How can the CEO, directors make so much money and enjoy a luxurious life.
Not only flash, the screw cover also expensive, one that is made of just plastic can cost you $18.
24th May 2004, 04:36 PM
24th May 2004, 09:05 PM
Well, I dun think it's an overkill.... if u are into flash photography the quality and control over the flash output makes or breaks your pictures.... and at any rate, if u upgrade the body the flash can still be used on the new body.... it's like an investment perhaps.... it's always there when u need it.... no need to buy new body and then heartache no money to buy the flash... otherwise if u buy a cheaper flash now, u'll soon find that it is not powerful enough and u'll want to upgrade.. so bite the bullet now and get the best flash in the range.... it will last a pretty long time....
Originally Posted by groupwest
25th May 2004, 02:31 AM
Yeap, you'll probably only pay $200++/pc if you buy a few thousand pieces at a go from the manufacturer direct...
Originally Posted by sulhan
25th May 2004, 11:28 AM
25th May 2004, 11:30 AM