Canon 10D Vs Nikon D70

[Kenji]

I wanted to get a DSLR which can take movement shots about movement like running, jumping, dancing, walking. Use to have Canon G2 last time but found out that there is a motion blur. So i sold and want to get DSLR. So which should I go for?

[acetylcholine]

Originally Posted by es0teric I wanted to get a DSLR which can take movement shots about movement like running, jumping, dancing, walking. Use to have Canon G2 last time but found out that there is a motion blur. So i sold and want to get DSLR. So which should I go for?

u are comparing a proven professional level DSLR with an entry level 1 which is receiving rave reviews?

[oeyvind]

Originally Posted by es0teric I wanted to get a DSLR which can take movement shots about movement like running, jumping, dancing, walking. Use to have Canon G2 last time but found out that there is a motion blur. So i sold and want to get DSLR. So which should I go for?

If you took the pix with G2 and there's a motion blur... because your shutter speed is too slow, nothing to do with DSLR or normal dc.

[sehsuan]

there is no much difference here - just that 300D's metering mode has been "locked" relative to it's bigger brother, the 10D. on this count, AND assuming you prefer nikon lenses, go get the D70.

[acetylcholine]

i would say canon made a wrong move based on specs.
300d is a watered-down ver of 10D or something
D70 is a no-holds bar model based on whatever current model

bad move sparky

[Kenji]

Originally Posted by acetylcholine i would say canon made a wrong move based on specs. 300d is a watered-down ver of 10D or something D70 is a no-holds bar model based on whatever current model bad move sparky

No holds bar? Mind elaborate?

[moos blues]

pardon me for being rude cos i will be.

what's your point...!?

topic for thread is one thats going to invite flames.. and the content of your post is a big "huh?" to me.

Questions u may want to consider...

How do i get a sharper picture?
Do i know the equipment i'm using?
Do i know what am i talking about?

even if i give u a 1Ds or a Contax N digital... which cost 14K and 9-10K respectively, the last i checked and the best lens in the world... the pic will still be blur if your settings are wrong... or if u are going to shake like a leaf.

my 2cts? G2 good cam... master it, it can take jumping, running, hopping, one-legged racing or flying subjects.

under streetshooting section, theres a thread by clive taken around lil india with a canon G2. tho to me the pics are trigger happy snaps, which are confirmed by him, nevertheless some pics are clear, sharp and some of moving subject matter.

So if dunno anything ask and not assume. dont straight away blame the camera and think if its more expensive its better.

maybe u can post some pics here and we can try and determine the problem... post some info abt the pic too like ur settings, time of day... etc...

hope i'm not too harsh.

[Kenji]

Originally Posted by moos blues pardon me for being rude cos i will be. what's your point...!? topic for thread is one thats going to invite flames.. and the content of your post is a big "huh?" to me. Questions u may want to consider... How do i get a sharper picture? Do i know the equipment i'm using? Do i know what am i talking about? even if i give u a 1Ds or a Contax N digital... which cost 14K and 9-10K respectively, the last i checked and the best lens in the world... the pic will still be blur if your settings are wrong... or if u are going to shake like a leaf. my 2cts? G2 good cam... master it, it can take jumping, running, hopping, one-legged racing or flying subjects. under streetshooting section, theres a thread by clive taken around lil india with a canon G2. tho to me the pics are trigger happy snaps, which are confirmed by him, nevertheless some pics are clear, sharp and some of moving subject matter. So if dunno anything ask and not assume. dont straight away blame the camera and think if its more expensive its better. maybe u can post some pics here and we can try and determine the problem... post some info abt the pic too like ur settings, time of day... etc... hope i'm not too harsh.

The reason I want to get a DSLR is because every Digital Camera do have a delay in shutter. I believe you understand what I'm trying to say. And I assume that DSLR have a quick release shutter than Digital Camera. My intention is to find out more about this 2 camera before purchasing. As I am new to DSLR, and hope getting one which can last me for more than 5 years.

[tky]

Originally Posted by es0teric The reason I want to get a DSLR is because every Digital Camera do have a delay in shutter. I believe you understand what I'm trying to say. And I assume that DSLR have a quick release shutter than Digital Camera. My intention is to find out more about this 2 camera before purchasing. As I am new to DSLR, and hope getting one which can last me for more than 5 years.

It's true all cameras have a shutter delay, but IMHO, most digicam nowadays have much improved on this. You may wanna drop by the shops and try it yourself to get a feel of this.

[offspring]

Originally Posted by es0teric I wanted to get a DSLR which can take movement shots about movement like running, jumping, dancing, walking. Use to have Canon G2 last time but found out that there is a motion blur. So i sold and want to get DSLR. So which should I go for?

Hi

I guess what you meant is taking sports-like shots. DSLR may have a slight advantage over digicams for continuous focus - but not always apparent. At least, not for the models you mentioned.

I owned and used the G2 and 10D before. Frankly, both the prosumer G2 and the DSLR can let you take the pics you want - with practice and patience. I agree that the shutter lag of G2 is irritating at times but the convenience of a small form digicam is absent in DSLR.

Nevertheless, you made your mind on using DSLR, I suggest you go with the D70 first as it is more economical (assuming you have no preference between Nikon and Canon).

If cost is not an issue, I would suggest you hold your horses for a couple of months to wait for some mid-tier DSLRs (like S3pro, 10DMKII, D200?). Otherwise, wait for the Minolta 7D with Anti-Shake, may help you with the sports-like shoots.

Just my thoughts, your mileage may differ.

[moos blues]

okay =)

i apologize for my misunderstanding you and the situation you are in.

as for the D70 and the 10D

the d70 starts up in an instant... it's never really off in the first place kinda like ur PDA. personally the D70's dail and stuff looks like canon's haha.. oh well.. so i felt. deleting pics on D70 was an easy affair hit trash twice, and the ability to spot meter.

but when i considered a system i.e nikon canon minolta etc... i had to look at what mattered like: expandability, lens compatability, improvements...

i went for canon cos i liked canon. haha.. lenses, technology looked good to me lor... found them to be quite hassle free... but i wont lie. it was a personal pref. and stuck to canon ever since, even when lens lending khakis have switch to nikon.. sigh. haha..

to me if u want start up time... D70 wins

shutter lag D70 wins 40ms? 10D is 80ms but i can say that it is not noticable to most humans.

Canon AF rox haha.. canon sub forum mah.. but to me really its still is tops. Nikon is getting there with the CAM900 system.

top shutter for D70 is 1/8000... 10D is 1/4000

Flash system is iTTL for D70

10D's ISO goes higher too...

some last points i think should be considered.... D70 is newer... so technology has some edge over the 10D, but class to class... the 10D is better build body wise for sure.. u want it to last i say 10D. just look at the D60s and D30s... they are still going.

[Pepper]

Originally Posted by moos blues okay =) i apologize for my misunderstanding you and the situation you are in. as for the D70 and the 10D the d70 starts up in an instant... it's never really off in the first place kinda like ur PDA. personally the D70's dail and stuff looks like canon's haha.. oh well.. so i felt. deleting pics on D70 was an easy affair hit trash twice, and the ability to spot meter. but when i considered a system i.e nikon canon minolta etc... i had to look at what mattered like: expandability, lens compatability, improvements... i went for canon cos i liked canon. haha.. lenses, technology looked good to me lor... found them to be quite hassle free... but i wont lie. it was a personal pref. and stuck to canon ever since, even when lens lending khakis have switch to nikon.. sigh. haha.. to me if u want start up time... D70 wins shutter lag D70 wins 40ms? 10D is 80ms but i can say that it is not noticable to most humans. Canon AF rox haha.. canon sub forum mah.. but to me really its still is tops. Nikon is getting there with the CAM900 system. top shutter for D70 is 1/8000... 10D is 1/4000 Flash system is iTTL for D70 10D's ISO goes higher too... some last points i think should be considered.... D70 is newer... so technology has some edge over the 10D, but class to class... the 10D is better build body wise for sure.. u want it to last i say 10D. just look at the D60s and D30s... they are still going.

I like the way you put things in perspective. Very good. All canonites and nikonians should learn from u.

[d4vid]

Get the Canon 300D, it's far better than D70 and at a fraction of the cost of 10D.

[justarius]

Originally Posted by moos blues Canon AF rox haha.. canon sub forum mah.. but to me really its still is tops. Nikon is getting there with the CAM900 system.

Minor technological point: CAM900 system is the lowest tier autofocus module found in current Nikon AF cameras. The F5 and F100 uses CAM1300, with a different arrangment of sensors and thus is more accurate. The D2H uses the newest CAM2000 system.

Anyway, back to the topic, it really boils down to a simple preference in how the camera feels to you. When I was choosing an SLR sometime ago, I was debating between the Canon 300V and Nikon F75. I went with Nikon simply because I liked its styling and it felt better in my hands.

[earthlings]

Originally Posted by d4vid Get the Canon 300D, it's far better than D70 and at a fraction of the cost of 10D.

Common leh, elaborate why 300D is better.... don't just stop there...

[blak]

what a provoking title for the thread. i mean, wouldn't you still have to make a choice at the end of the day, no matter how much opinions you gather? go to the canon and the nikon websites, look at the specs/price of the camera, evaluate and make a choice at your own discretion.

my two cents worth.

[jimtong]

Originally Posted by d4vid Get the Canon 300D, it's far better than D70 and at a fraction of the cost of 10D.

Like to hear your opinion

[jimtong]

es0teric, you will not go wrong with either one. Both are good cameras. D70 offer value for money in terms of features which are comparable to 10D. Some of the points was brought up by moos blues so I will not repeat.

However, just to let you know that 10D weighs a ton compared to D70. That is If you dun mind the weight and the price.

And also, for the price of $2100 (correct me if i am wrong) you paid for D70, you will have a very good quality kits lens. 10D only comes with body and it cos $2600++ and you need to chip in another few hundreds to get a decent lens.

Go for the D70 if you are on budget. Really value for money.

[Kenji]

Thanks for your guidance. As right now I am doing my homework. The purpose of this thread for me is to get know more about this 2 DSLR. By looking at dpreview are only comparing the specs. I have a budget on DSLR now. As Nikon D70 which cost me $2100 with kits, but if I want to go for Canon 10D, I will go for 2nd hand and budget around $2200 with normal lens, 50mm f1.8 mkII, $120. And in future, i will get more lens for different type of shootings like macro etc...Just only want to find out in future if I get other lens or UV fliter, comparing which brand of lens are more expensive. Even though going for 3rd party lens, still need to know which price suits me. And in photography, should not have any budget problem

[Hoky]

Originally Posted by d4vid Get the Canon 300D, it's far better than D70 and at a fraction of the cost of 10D.

Are you sure??
Even I'm a Canon fan, I don't place such a remark.
Other than the AF speed and pricing which I find that's a big difference, the Nikon's D70 specs seems to outshine in every aspect.

Maybe you like the 300D mirror slapping sound. Ka chunk...