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    Default Color turn out different in D90 screen..

    Hi guys,

    Recently i shoot a jewerly which has turquoise color... however when i use my D90 to shoot it turn out to be in blue color.. guess this is the restriction of having only sRGB right? .. cause when i transfer to my fatherinlaw computer and using his newly purchase screen which consists of RGB+Y ... it can show exactly the same turquoise color!..

    So for now the only option i have is to use PP to change the color right? what setting should i look into? i tried using curves but it seems very hard to get the color...

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    Default Re: Color turn out different in D90 screen..

    Quote Originally Posted by Astroboy77 View Post
    Recently i shoot a jewerly which has turquoise color... however when i use my D90 to shoot it turn out to be in blue color.. guess this is the restriction of having only sRGB right? .. cause when i transfer to my fatherinlaw computer and using his newly purchase screen which consists of RGB+Y ... it can show exactly the same turquoise color!..
    So for now the only option i have is to use PP to change the color right? what setting should i look into? i tried using curves but it seems very hard to get the color...
    First of all: are your screens all calibrated? If not .. no point discussing colours further.
    Then: if the screen of your in-law shows the colour correct then it's correctly in the file. Whatever is missing at your screen (be it camera LCD or your own PC) is a matter of the display and PP doesn't help. You would only tweak for this display - but on any other display it would look horrible.
    The question of sRGB versus any other colour space doesn't matter much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    First of all: are your screens all calibrated? If not .. no point discussing colours further.
    Then: if the screen of your in-law shows the colour correct then it's correctly in the file. Whatever is missing at your screen (be it camera LCD or your own PC) is a matter of the display and PP doesn't help. You would only tweak for this display - but on any other display it would look horrible.
    The question of sRGB versus any other colour space doesn't matter much.
    Just wondering your meaning of calibration is normal viewing calibration or need those special device or software to calibrate the monitor? For your infor, my inlaw monitor is only so call "calibrated" with the normal Nvidal software that come along with his PC..

    Any other bros got different view??.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astroboy77 View Post
    Hi guys,

    Recently i shoot a jewerly which has turquoise color... however when i use my D90 to shoot it turn out to be in blue color.. guess this is the restriction of having only sRGB right? .. cause when i transfer to my fatherinlaw computer and using his newly purchase screen which consists of RGB+Y ... it can show exactly the same turquoise color!..

    So for now the only option i have is to use PP to change the color right? what setting should i look into? i tried using curves but it seems very hard to get the color...
    Maybe you can clarify certain things like how did you set the white balance of your D90 before you shot the turquoise coloured jewellerym, and also under what type of light did you shoot in, and possibly, what's the shutter speed you shot at if it was under flourescent lighting.

    Then assuming the shot was done correctly with correct white balance, the other question would is your monitor calibrated. If you can post the pic, all the better - although I would wait till reaching home before viewing as the monitor at my office will show colours differently from my home monitor (limitations of laptop LCD)

    ::edit:: re-read what Octarine wrote and agree, it is most likely a monitor calibration issue. Title of thread is pretty misleading.
    Last edited by wildcat; 18th August 2010 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Maybe you can clarify certain things like how did you set the white balance of your D90 before you shot the turquoise coloured jewellerym, and also under what type of light did you shoot in, and possibly, what's the shutter speed you shot at if it was under flourescent lighting.

    Then assuming the shot was done correctly, the other question would is your monitor calibrated.
    oh ok..
    WB - shady
    with sun light shining from window (no other lighting is on)
    len use - 18 - 200mm VR1
    shutter speed 1/80
    ISO 250
    focus 8

    hmmm can i ask if the shot was so call done correctly... it is when i view the photo, the D90 screen suppose to shown the turquoise color?

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    http://www.flickr.com/photos/53106604@N07/4903973048/

    Ok i have posted a photo for your guys to see...

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    Calibrate your monitor....

    I have a laptop with an LCD connected to it. My image looks different between both displays, so which one do you trust? Viewing the same image on several other peoples screens will look different too.
    ex-Nikon owner - now only iPhone :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyP View Post
    Calibrate your monitor....

    I have a laptop with an LCD connected to it. My image looks different between both displays, so which one do you trust? Viewing the same image on several other peoples screens will look different too.
    hmmm.. can I say that even though my monitor is calibrated but if others not calibrated, they won't be able to see the turquoise color?

    I mean if it show different tone of turquoise color at different monitor i am still ok with it.. but it seem like it turn from turquoise to blue.. got so much different?...

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    I don't particularly know which part is supposed to be turquoise.
    It looks like the band around her neck is turquoise, and 2 blue flowers on the right side.
    I don't exactly know what the colour of the jewelery is itself.
    ex-Nikon owner - now only iPhone :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astroboy77 View Post
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/53106604@N07/4903973048/

    Ok i have posted a photo for your guys to see...
    It looks turquoise on my laptop monitor

    Maybe I'm not that fussy

    But if so, maybe that means it's a problem with your monitor?
    There are some online sites... I guess can try http://www.digitaldog.net/tips/index.shtml or Google for more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyP View Post
    I don't particularly know which part is supposed to be turquoise.
    It looks like the band around her neck is turquoise, and 2 blue flowers on the right side.
    I don't exactly know what the colour of the jewelery is itself.
    well... based on the actual item, the 2 flower suppose to be turquoise color... and the ribbon around suppose to be blue + light greenie color...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    It looks turquoise on my laptop monitor

    Maybe I'm not that fussy

    But if so, maybe that means it's a problem with your monitor?
    There are some online sites... I guess can try http://www.digitaldog.net/tips/index.shtml or Google for more?
    oops... maybe i should try to reshoot with various WB and lighting and see if there any different..

    by the way, thanks for the web link.. will take sometime to read thru...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astroboy77 View Post
    oops... maybe i should try to reshoot with various WB and lighting and see if there any different..

    by the way, thanks for the web link.. will take sometime to read thru...
    I originally typed up a post about WB, but then noticed that you said the colour was fine on your F-I-L screen, so deleted it lol.
    Take the pic, compare on your LCD, adjust the WB to match what you think it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyP View Post
    I originally typed up a post about WB, but then noticed that you said the colour was fine on your F-I-L screen, so deleted it lol.
    Take the pic, compare on your LCD, adjust the WB to match what you think it should be.
    Yup, it was really fine when viewing from my FIL screen.. just wondering why it doesn't show the same in my D90 and PC monitor screen... initially i thought it because my FIL monitor beside having RGB, it has the additional of yellow.. thus it make the difference that it can show the true turquoise color...

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    Default Re: Color turn out different in D90 screen..

    Quote Originally Posted by Astroboy77 View Post
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/53106604@N07/4903973048/

    Ok i have posted a photo for your guys to see...
    To get your color exactly correct, at the camera end, you need to a white balance adjustment tool to get the custom white balance of the light of the shoot into your camera before you shoot. A white card, or %18 grey card, or white balance cap/tool. After that calibrating WB, you shoot your product.

    After that, you need to get your monitor color calibrated. Not just using software, but you need hardware or color charts. The easiest way is to use products like Datacolor's Spyder products.

    If you intend to print the pictures and want the color to be correct, you need to calibrate your printer as well. Products like Datacolor's Spyder Studio will help you.

    If you are dead serious about getting color right, (for product shots etc... commercial purpose), there is no other way around it. Need to spend money to get colors of every piece of hardware in your workflow calibrated.
    Last edited by daredevil123; 18th August 2010 at 04:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astroboy77 View Post
    Just wondering your meaning of calibration is normal viewing calibration or need those special device or software to calibrate the monitor? For your infor, my inlaw monitor is only so call "calibrated" with the normal Nvidal software that come along with his PC..
    This Nvidia calibration is based on your eyes as measurement device. The software shows you some images / colours and based on your "eye feedback" the software tunes the output. Might work for a very very basic calibration. Reason: the human eye is easily deceived and is by no means a reliable instrument to judge colours. Simple games about optical illusions show that clearly. Try for yourself: Look long enough at a page with red background and your eyes and brain start getting less sensitive to it. Just after this look at an image with warm WB settings and the image will look cooler because your eyes are less sensitive for reddish tones.
    Conclusion: get a calibration device. It's neutral and will do the job properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyP View Post
    I have a laptop with an LCD connected to it. My image looks different between both displays, so which one do you trust? Viewing the same image on several other peoples screens will look different too.
    You can't do much about other people's screen. But you can start working on profiled (calibrated) equipment to get a defined starting point.
    If you have 2 screens you need to calibrate both. But not all laptops have a graphics card that can hold 2 profiles. In that case calibrate the big one where you have the image, the other one might look off but that doesn't matter much for menus or file system browser. Don't forget to include the ICC profile into the image. Also, make sure that all applications you use for viewing the image are colour managed (means: they are able to read the embedded profile and render the image accordingly. Some viewers and browsers are "profile blind".
    More about browsers and embedded profiles: http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_...profiles.html#
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