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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy81 View Post
    Buttie chiu got try the atlas can sync at speeds faster den 1/250s?
    sync speed ish limited by camera shutter..
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    Quote Originally Posted by blazer_workz View Post
    sync speed ish limited by camera shutter..
    I ish noob

    Allo buttie long time no see riao when come out soot again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawzsg View Post
    .. hope bbbutties don't mind, but being a technical person, I have taken a look at my remote flash kit and realized that they are;

    Frequency - FM 433 MHz
    Sync Speed - 1/500 sec a range of 30 meters.

    From that itself, I don't see how it will hinder normal usage. Even with the flash mounted on the hotshoe (direct transmission), we can't shoot above 1/250 as I remember experiencing a dark band at the bottom of the image trying at 1/320 shuttle speed. Hence I conclude the limitation lies more with shuttle operation (lag) and not the transmission speed.

    During the tEachEr shoot, I did a couple of test shots when switching over to the Beast™ to determine both exposure and possible sync speed. I just converted the RAW and resize it as below;

    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/...f9e18456_z.jpg

    Can't read the full EXIF but remembered shooting between f/8 ~ f/16, however the shuttle speed still register. The upper one is 1/200 while the bottom one is 1/400. The dark area at the bottom isn't much heavier than previous experience with 1/320, hence I am confident that even operating at 433 MHz, it will be really good enough.

    In accordance IEEE, higher Hz mainly equates to bigger payload and longer range rather than speed. In a simple device such as the remote trigger (singular function encompassing dry contact mainly), I don't really think the higher Hz counts, even if TTL function is build in. Most broadcast are utilising VHF and UHF anyway, i.e. < 900 Mhz.

    2.4 GHz as I read were the standard set by IEEE code 802 for data transmission in the medium to long range, hence most of our devices/broadband/computer related stuff are operating on a section of this code namely 802.11b and 802.11g. It is about 2 stops above the VHF I think classified as the "S" band if I'm not mistaken.

    Infact, research has found that 2.4 GHz transmission are most prone to electromagnetic inteferences after it was implemented and gained widespread usage. Our data phones are using this frequency btw. see link below

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...nce_at_2.4_GHz

    Hi-spec may not always works better depends on the scale of applications. Hence fibre-optics didn't quite took off for domestic purposes. Despite it higher speed compare to electrical signal, the gain in low range usage doesn't justify due to data modulation and de-modulation are done in electrical speed. Over long range, they have advantage as electrical signal deminishes over distances and required more intermediate boosting.
    Good stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy81 View Post
    I ish noob

    Allo buttie long time no see riao when come out soot again?
    yesh! long time see..i think i can smell fungus in my dry cabinet liao..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jawzsg View Post
    .. hope bbbutties don't mind, but being a technical person, I have taken a look at my remote flash kit and realized that they are;

    Frequency - FM 433 MHz
    Sync Speed - 1/500 sec a range of 30 meters.

    From that itself, I don't see how it will hinder normal usage. Even with the flash mounted on the hotshoe (direct transmission), we can't shoot above 1/250 as I remember experiencing a dark band at the bottom of the image trying at 1/320 shuttle speed. Hence I conclude the limitation lies more with shuttle operation (lag) and not the transmission speed.

    During the tEachEr shoot, I did a couple of test shots when switching over to the Beast™ to determine both exposure and possible sync speed. I just converted the RAW and resize it as below;

    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/...f9e18456_z.jpg

    Can't read the full EXIF but remembered shooting between f/8 ~ f/16, however the shuttle speed still register. The upper one is 1/200 while the bottom one is 1/400. The dark area at the bottom isn't much heavier than previous experience with 1/320, hence I am confident that even operating at 433 MHz, it will be really good enough.

    In accordance IEEE, higher Hz mainly equates to bigger payload and longer range rather than speed. In a simple device such as the remote trigger (singular function encompassing dry contact mainly), I don't really think the higher Hz counts, even if TTL function is build in. Most broadcast are utilising VHF and UHF anyway, i.e. < 900 Mhz.

    2.4 GHz as I read were the standard set by IEEE code 802 for data transmission in the medium to long range, hence most of our devices/broadband/computer related stuff are operating on a section of this code namely 802.11b and 802.11g. It is about 2 stops above the VHF I think classified as the "S" band if I'm not mistaken.

    Infact, research has found that 2.4 GHz transmission are most prone to electromagnetic inteferences after it was implemented and gained widespread usage. Our data phones are using this frequency btw. see link below

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...nce_at_2.4_GHz

    Hi-spec may not always works better depends on the scale of applications. Hence fibre-optics didn't quite took off for domestic purposes. Despite it higher speed compare to electrical signal, the gain in low range usage doesn't justify due to data modulation and de-modulation are done in electrical speed. Over long range, they have advantage as electrical signal deminishes over distances and required more intermediate boosting.
    don't play play.. serious stuff.

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    Default Re: Tang Shooters XCVIII - TCSS Thread...

    anyone interested to go short trip next jan?
    maybe phuket or chiangmai etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsun View Post
    anyone interested to go short trip next jan?
    maybe phuket or chiangmai etc?
    Thailand is good !!!!
    me me me...




























    cannot go

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    GLGT part 3!!!

    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showt...43#post6462943

    Last part will be portraits of all the athletes!! Stay tuned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkkang View Post
    Thailand is good !!!!
    me me me...




























    cannot go
    master always bruff chewrens one!

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    http://www.modelmayhem.com/1064048

    $70 per hour por bikini
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsun View Post
    anyone interested to go short trip next jan?
    maybe phuket or chiangmai etc?
    next jan should b ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by juste_millieu View Post
    next jan should b ok
    yesh...best dates 7-10 jan
    lets go!!!

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    being bachelor is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkkang View Post
    being bachelor is good
    dunno if im right...being spinister is gd?
    well, im enjoying my singlehood

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazer_workz View Post
    Good stuff!
    Quote Originally Posted by lkkang View Post
    don't play play.. serious stuff.
    .. nose problum...moi ish de juz hope moi bbbutties hwill not be taken in by sales pitch and buying more than is needed......
    651D90 Mk II cameller™ ...... "Ai Camel Mai ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawzsg View Post
    .. nose problum...moi ish de juz hope moi bbbutties hwill not be taken in by sales pitch and buying more than is needed......
    sales tok is beri de powderpool huan... huait becum MASter BBB sho many pcc wizards but but he ish MASter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsun View Post
    anyone interested to go short trip next jan?
    maybe phuket or chiangmai etc?
    ghost during songkran next year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauche View Post
    ghost during songkran next year!
    Huait cameller ish de gotch wet.......den ish de 1Ds Mk III........ .... no tankz...
    651D90 Mk II cameller™ ...... "Ai Camel Mai ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuantoh View Post
    sales tok is beri de powderpool huan... huait becum MASter BBB sho many pcc wizards but but he ish MASter...
    ... MASter ish her differenz breed... he ish de MASter reh...nose pray pray.....
    651D90 Mk II cameller™ ...... "Ai Camel Mai ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawzsg View Post
    Huait cameller ish de gotch wet.......den ish de 1Ds Mk III........ .... no tankz...
    Next year ish de gotz 1DsmkIV liao
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