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    Ahh but that one was designed to hold 170mm x 130mm filters. The dedicated one from Lee holds 150mm x 150mm so I guess its a little short for the 14-24mm. Could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Don't believe everything that's been said ... have you been to NSC - I have - to compare between the two? I'd say external body quality wise - can't tell the difference... Sure, it can't beat Tokina 11-16mm body quality... but angle wise - wins hands down!
    Okay... I was reading Ken Rockwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Okay... I was reading Ken Rockwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Okay... I was reading Ken Rockwell
    I wouldn't discount all of Ken's reviews, but some..... where's my pepper, salt, paprika, cinamon, oregano, basil, rosemary and thyme bottles??!....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    It's not my fault that Google returns KR as the first website when I searched
    "Nikkor 10-24mm vs 12-24mm"



    Let Me Google That For You

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    It's not my fault that Google returns KR as the first website when I searched
    "Nikkor 10-24mm vs 12-24mm"



    Let Me Google That For You
    I can know finally understand China's frustration with the search company....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    If you look at the 1st photo again. Pay attention to the floor tiles at the edges. You realise that they were stretched to a diamond shape? Compare to the tiles closer to the middle of the photo, which are less elongated like a square. This stretching effect is perspective distortion associated with wide angle lenses. It cannot be corrected.

    2nd photo, look at the vertical lines on the left side of the photo. You'd realise that instead of being straight, they are slightly curved outwards. This curve is more pronounced towards the edges of the photo. That's called barrel distortion, which is a type of curvilinear distortion. The opposite of this is pin cushion distortion, which is associated with lenses with longer reach. These can be corrected to a certain extend with software.
    Thanks Kit for pointing out the actual spot.
    Kinda get it now. You guys senior in here got really sharp eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Same here, the pricier 12-24 apart from constant f/4 aperture does not serve any big purpose when compared to the newer lens 10-24 f/3.5-4.5. The latter being more affordable, MUCH MUCH wider (10 deg difference), and lighter too!
    How you guys calculate the degree? Any tips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopred View Post
    How you guys calculate the degree? Any tips?
    I don't think people here bothered themselves with calculations. All lifted from manufacturers' specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopred View Post
    How you guys calculate the degree? Any tips?
    Yup, google for a particular lens' spec and it's all there!... Information at your finger tips...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    Just curious.... what is this 12-24 lens that everyone in this thread is talking about (for FF)?
    Is there such a lens?
    From the description (no filter yet), it sounds like the AF-S Nikkor 14-24 f/2.8.... is that the one you're referring to?

    As to the shooting at widest focal length... the distortion exists at just about every focal length, so if you avoid the widest and narrowest because of distortion, then what focal length are you gonna shoot at?
    At the wide end, every mm makes a lot of difference. Seems like a waste to pay good $$ for an ultra-wide, then restrict oneself to shooting at a slightly narrower view.

    Ultra-wides capture a lot of things, and so composing a scene is more challenging. If one doesn't want to think about so many things when composing, it's best not to get a UWA lens...
    Sorry I meant 14-24/2.8... a bit (con)fused... sign of old age... like what ed mentioned in another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Sorry I meant 14-24/2.8... a bit (con)fused... sign of old age... like what ed mentioned in another thread.

    Sigma 12-24 for FX
    scary....
    Exploring! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Woot?! Where were you when we're debating about the FOV / Angle of View regarding UWA about a week ago? You managed to calculate the CF/FF differences, remember? Then Raskae pointed out the Sigma's 12-24 for full frame DSLRs, a whopping 122 degrees!! Whereas Nikon's 14-24, only 114 degrees!

    Btw, I think (if I'm not wrong that is), Cokin has a solution for Nikon's 14-24 filter problem... using their X series with some "screw-inwards" fastener / adaptor...

    Sigma's 12-24 uses soft gelatin filters (rear attacheable I think)... Kit, you got experience with soft gelatin filters?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    I didn't know the X series was big enough for the 14-24mm. LEE did make a dedicated filter holder for thie lens though.

    No experience with gelatin filters though but I know Cathay sells the ones from LEE.
    Cokin X-pro are only 130mm wide holders... I think not big enough. LEE's solution is 150mm wide filters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post

    Sigma 12-24 for FX
    scary....
    Sigma has always been a bit mad. Just like the 8-16 they released for the DX.

    Mad scientist...
    Last edited by daredevil123; 17th August 2010 at 08:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    I wouldn't discount all of Ken's reviews, but some..... where's my pepper, salt, paprika, cinamon, oregano, basil, rosemary and thyme bottles??!....
    I like the part where he says we are in the age where we should throw tripods out the window and shoot everything high ISO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    I like the part where he says we are in the age where we should throw tripods out the window and shoot everything high ISO...
    Yup, that's the famous line alright... Lemme check my Sirui...*tac tac*, hmmm... tough enough... Okay, lemme at him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Sigma has always been a bit mad. Just like the 8-16 they released for the DX.

    Mad scientist...
    Or the 4.5mm they released for DX...
    (which I have been eyeing for a long time... hope to strike Toto)

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    I like the part where he says we are in the age where we should throw tripods out the window and shoot everything high ISO...
    Oh. That would explain Kit's response to me.

    You mean you guys don't do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Oh. That would explain Kit's response to me.

    You mean you guys don't do that?
    Number one... throwing things out of the window in Singapore is a big no-no!...
    Number two... if you can really get past number one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Number one... throwing things out of the window in Singapore is a big no-no!...
    Number two... if you can really get past number one...
    Tell me when. I go outside your window and wait. Please throw the markins ballhead out together with your T2204x.

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