poverty

MikeyHo · 11th May 2004

an attempt shot of a beggar sitting outside a temple in Malacca

Witness · 13th May 2004

u cauaht the mood very well.....tts wat u call the deciding moment...between a good photo and a not so good one.,..

but if can see more of the face would be better...

RemAcuTetigisti · 13th May 2004

When will ppl stop taking bad pictures of the under-previleged. There is absolutely no connection between the photographer and the person in the picture. A classic snap shot taken in a sense of urgency and fear. Click and walk. Technically, the image lacks any kind of punch.

Don't take this as a personal tirade, but good street shots are very difficult to take. The major issue is the lack of emotion in the images. There are a number of mediocre images in this genre and few outstanding works. The difference is primarily in the way the photographer approaches the subjects. Your image is one of indifference and has a very tourist quality.

Hope you can think about these next time you go out for a shoot. my 2c.

rueyloon · 13th May 2004

it is not a good shot........

the height from it is taken is called the 1.5m syndrome, you're practically standing and looking down at him..... totally detached, and as pointed out, there is nothing that links, the subject with the background and also their relation to you.

AReality · 13th May 2004

You should've gone lower.
Then waited for him to make eye contact with you.

lizter · 13th May 2004

bro, time to buy your 70-200

scanner · 13th May 2004

Originally Posted by lizter

bro, time to buy your 70-200

Do you think a 70-200 len can do a good street shot?

AReality · 13th May 2004

Originally Posted by scanner

Do you think a 70-200 len can do a good street shot?

if u know how to use it..

lizter · 13th May 2004

no lah, he keep saying he wants to get the lens mah. so now he couldnt get the face of the man, i think cause he afraid to approach him, so i say its time for him to spend his money lo.

zaren · 13th May 2004

hmm.... "emotional connection" .... wonder what that means?

when i look at the pic, i see that the beggar looks happy, so there is the emotion of "happiness". but beggars are usually sad, so as the viewer, i am intrigued why this beggar is happy. does that count as an "emotional connection" ?

scanner · 14th May 2004

Originally Posted by AReality

if u know how to use it..

Maybe you can teach me or rather coach me then.
Me very bad in using long len for street shoot.

RemAcuTetigisti · 14th May 2004

Zaren:

It is very difficult for me to imagine (from the picture) that the person is happy. Looks like he is shouting at someone

Anyway, my point on 'lack of connection' is because I do not have an avenue to move into the picture. There is no entrance. Typically, eyes are a good emoting feature and lets the viewer enter the frame and explore the rest of the image. This is not necessarily true too. You may have environmental portraits that lets you feel the soroundings when you look at the image. For example:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2332954
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2329520
Both are eye-level shots by the same photographer. No eyes. I like the first one better than the second (though, I like both).

I guess the pictures show that the photog was bolder and that makes the images stand out.

cheers

ghibli · 14th May 2004

The first pic is interesting. I like your comments, more analytical than the typical "lighting and composition are good". Thanks.

11th May 2004	#1
MikeyHo Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 233	poverty an attempt shot of a beggar sitting outside a temple in Malacca

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Witness Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: www.maverickatwork.com Posts: 6,768	u cauaht the mood very well.....tts wat u call the deciding moment...between a good photo and a not so good one.,.. but if can see more of the face would be better... __________________ w maverick.photography b maverick.blogging

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AReality Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,396	You should've gone lower. Then waited for him to make eye contact with you. __________________ . The Visual Journalist

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lizter Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 131	bro, time to buy your 70-200 __________________ www.ambellic.com

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lizter Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 131	no lah, he keep saying he wants to get the lens mah. so now he couldnt get the face of the man, i think cause he afraid to approach him, so i say its time for him to spend his money lo. __________________ www.ambellic.com

13th May 2004	#3
RemAcuTetigisti Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 189	When will ppl stop taking bad pictures of the under-previleged. There is absolutely no connection between the photographer and the person in the picture. A classic snap shot taken in a sense of urgency and fear. Click and walk. Technically, the image lacks any kind of punch. Don't take this as a personal tirade, but good street shots are very difficult to take. The major issue is the lack of emotion in the images. There are a number of mediocre images in this genre and few outstanding works. The difference is primarily in the way the photographer approaches the subjects. Your image is one of indifference and has a very tourist quality. Hope you can think about these next time you go out for a shoot. my 2c.

13th May 2004	#4
rueyloon Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,539	it is not a good shot........ the height from it is taken is called the 1.5m syndrome, you're practically standing and looking down at him..... totally detached, and as pointed out, there is nothing that links, the subject with the background and also their relation to you.

13th May 2004	#10
zaren Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,709	hmm.... "emotional connection" .... wonder what that means? when i look at the pic, i see that the beggar looks happy, so there is the emotion of "happiness". but beggars are usually sad, so as the viewer, i am intrigued why this beggar is happy. does that count as an "emotional connection" ?

14th May 2004	#12
RemAcuTetigisti Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 189	Zaren: It is very difficult for me to imagine (from the picture) that the person is happy. Looks like he is shouting at someone Anyway, my point on 'lack of connection' is because I do not have an avenue to move into the picture. There is no entrance. Typically, eyes are a good emoting feature and lets the viewer enter the frame and explore the rest of the image. This is not necessarily true too. You may have environmental portraits that lets you feel the soroundings when you look at the image. For example: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2332954 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2329520 Both are eye-level shots by the same photographer. No eyes. I like the first one better than the second (though, I like both). I guess the pictures show that the photog was bolder and that makes the images stand out. cheers

14th May 2004	#13
ghibli Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 75	The first pic is interesting. I like your comments, more analytical than the typical "lighting and composition are good". Thanks.