Last edited by ahbian; 12th July 2010 at 03:34 PM.
What the other members views is to highlight that the model is also responsible for allowing such things to happen. They willing took the pictures and even pose for the photographer for a sum of money.
Even if what the photographer has done is morally wrong, the model facilitated it.
If the photographer is a criminal, the model is accomplice.. just an analogy..
Unless you're talking about unlawful kidnapping or threatening with armed weapon forcing the model to do something against her will, then it is different story.. and the law will take care of that.
Last edited by Limsgp; 12th July 2010 at 03:36 PM.
As for the photographer, there are all kinds of people. Even bfs will post photos of their ex-gfs when they break up. Not to mentioned strangers who have no relationship with the model. So if you are going to be in the trade, then it will be better you get an organizer who will protect your interests.
I do find sometimes these model are quite defenceless against such axx-holes who will do anything to disrespect, tarnish, indignify the models. The girls are just trying to make some extra cash. Just keep the photos for self appreciation instead of having to publish it on the World Wide Web for all to see. What are these guys trying to prove?
Is there anyway to protect these models? Maybe the organizers may want to share their views.
Last edited by ManWearPants; 12th July 2010 at 03:39 PM.
I want to add.
Models ought to know the consequences of taking up implied nude, nude (some photographers may claim its art? True for most but not for some cos its just an excuse), semi nude jobs. Cos you will never know where your photos landed up to!
Like night86mare says, in short summary, "It takes two to clap". So no point crying over sour milk.
I heard of this trade sayings before.
If you are a new model, make sure u go the clean path. If you want to side track for the sake of more earnings, your path as a model is as good as gone! Cos reputation in this field is very important. No potential clients (companies) will want their hired models to be featured on sleazy magazines or websites before cos it will tarnish their reputation (company's).
Only the famed models who choosed such jobs by reputable photographers who is known to be in this line can be exempted from such 'shames' since they are famous enough to be sought after.
So choose your path wisely if not that's it to your modeling career. Cos news spreads fast in this field.
I find it amazing that with all the news of leaked photos or videos appearing on newpaper there are still girls naive enough to bare all to a total stranger with a camera.
Think sure got Ppl say all this is pure Clubsnap group bashings........
Eat breath LIVERPOOL!!!
some are blinded by promised fame, some are blinded by $$$, some blinded by both (speaking in general, not targetting at anyone, TS or her friend).
This had been happening since our great great xxx parent's years isn't it?
So wun be surprised that there is still people falling for such old ancient tricks modified through the years at this century.
i am aware of the threads that you have raised. but, AFAIK we know, the pics there are not found here. which means they can be anywhere. if they are found here, we would have probably deleted them as catchlights mentioned.
ie - while your intentions might possibily be good, you are barking up the wrong tree. so back to the original question of wat is your purpose of starting this issue? the last time someone started it, CS ended up (of no fault of the majority here) being dragged thru the mud, one member got banned for provoking the Admins, one supposed ST/NP journalist posing as a CSer started a thread trying to fish out more dirt and the Admins taking a stand to ban all forms of nude/semi-nude shoots once and for all.
so, what is your purpose apart from stating what is already known?
If Life worked on auto mode then manual mode for photography would have never existed.” ― Deeksha Mittal
there is no guarantee that organisers who posted here, might not post at other "sleezy" forums to solicit responses. As long as the points agreed to is terms of contract then there should be no argument about who is right or wrong.
I was once told by a TFCD model that there was sudden change from a full clothed to semi-nude or lingerie in the midst of her previous photoshoot with the organiser threaten to withdraw pay. That would void the agreement and the organiser could be liable for a police case.
Most importantly, know your rights and what are you agreeing to.
I supposed there's this law on possessing and distributing porn, but then there is this grey area between nude art and pornography isn't there. Wouldn't say too much on it since our resident lawyer is gone , and I am far from qualified to interpret the law.
My points are not to challenge anybody, its just that while legally, the photographer might not have done anything wrong. I still feel a bit indignant that if it happened.
That is the point I'm making, that I'm struggling to bridge this apparent gap between the moral and legal liability of such a photographer.
here is a photography portal, which promote photography as an art form,
another one is a prono site, how can you compare CS and THAT site, are you hate CS that much?
moreover, if anyone dare to post a tasteless sleazy nude photo here, he/she will be banned in no time, and I'm sure members here will condemn such people and support our action.
I don't surf THAT site, but I'm sure if those tiko posting tasteless sleazy nude photos there will make them famous, earn a lots of thrums up and eyeballs.
THAT is the difference.
anyway i am not ashamed to say this, i do have an account in that forum and viewed those threads you mentioned. But from those pictures, i dun think he took those. He looked more like a picture collector to me judging by the number of such threads created by him.
i have also reasons to believe those photos on modelmayhem may not even be taken by him. Cos the photos from both side is very constrasting.
It might take 2 hands to clap.. But considering this: If you are a girl in a room full of photoger ( ok. maybe say 4 photogers), sometimes you are pressure to do something. I remembered FHM model in school uniform.
Remember those case where the "salesman" come in group and pressure pple to buy something.. Think time-share scheme and HDB-prowling "window upgrade" salesman.
Girls or Guys. Protect yourself. Bring a friend to shoot.
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