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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoto100 View Post
    ya.. i never thought it could be so bad... i order online from tago... anyway i don't use it now... if i use, i will use the cokin...

    may buy the hitech ... but i think u mentioned 3 filters and holder etc will cost 200+200... and this is "ouch"..
    The 3 piece set of 0.3, 0.6 and 0.9 Hitech GND is 200. The Hitech filter holder is around 120, the Hitech adapter ring is around 60+.

    Yup. around 200. But if you go Lee foundation kit the price goes u. The adapter ring is around $100 and the filter holder is around 120+, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    only the first photo has both.

    the rest are just GND only.
    A stupid question.

    How do you use B+W ND together with Tianya?

    You hold the Tianya in front by hand? Cos the holder would've occupied the threads, where to screw the B+W?

    If hold by hand, ND110 means you need to steady your hands for a few secs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMajor View Post
    A stupid question.

    How do you use B+W ND together with Tianya?

    You hold the Tianya in front by hand? Cos the holder would've occupied the threads, where to screw the B+W?

    If hold by hand, ND110 means you need to steady your hands for a few secs?

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    screw on nd110.

    screw on filter holder ring on top of nd110, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    The 3 piece set of 0.3, 0.6 and 0.9 Hitech GND is 200. The Hitech filter holder is around 120, the Hitech adapter ring is around 60+.

    Yup. around 200. But if you go Lee foundation kit the price goes u. The adapter ring is around $100 and the filter holder is around 120+, I think.
    Hi daredevil123

    u mention that Hitech also come in 85mm? Then can use Tianya holder which is abt 12 bucks and Hitech filters together?

    Hitech 85mm also 100+? No other cheaper alternative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMajor View Post
    Hi daredevil123

    u mention that Hitech also come in 85mm? Then can use Tianya holder which is abt 12 bucks and Hitech filters together?

    Hitech 85mm also 100+? No other cheaper alternative?
    Yes Hitech filters come in 85mm too. I do not know if TK Foto stocks them though. I would recommend you get the Cokin P holder instead of the Tianya. Cokin's cost $15-17 I think and is made much better than Tianya.

    What do you mean 100+, filters or 85mm holder? I have no idea of the prices of the Hitech 85mm filters or holders. You should give TK Foto a call and ask them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numnumball View Post
    Nice.. thinking of getting the SW150 when it comes as well..
    You have the Nikon 14-24???

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy View Post
    how many filters do you have?
    I cannot imagine how you can spend 200 on Tian ya

    I have almost all the filters, in total about 12-14 pieces but some of them dunno how to use..

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinc2005 View Post
    I have almost all the filters, in total about 12-14 pieces but some of them dunno how to use..
    Dude, why get all the filters if you don't know how to use?

    In the future, it is wiser to get only stuff you need la. All the colored grads are not really useful in digital, as you can do a better job adding the color in PP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Dude, why get all the filters if you don't know how to use?

    In the future, it is wiser to get only stuff you need la. All the colored grads are not really useful in digital, as you can do a better job adding the color in PP.
    Yeah, that is why... Learning how to use them all.. Now already switched to Cokin, but will choose those filters carefully.. For sure, i'll keep my current tianya ND4, ND8, GND, CPL, and also soft filters. Later will purchase cokin's ND filters as i've already know how to use them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    screw on nd110.

    screw on filter holder ring on top of nd110, etc
    yea. just dun stack too many or u get vignetting.
    i stack a uv+ cpl+nd4+nd8. quite obvious vignetting later on

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenleonhart View Post
    i stack a uv+ cpl+nd4+nd8. quite obvious vignetting later on
    Why do you stack uv + cpl? (I'm guessing UV is to "protect" lens and you're lazy to remove it when using cpl.)

    And cpl + nd4 + nd8? This I would like to ask those who use filters - can the effect of the cpl still be seen after stacking so many stops of nd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arctos View Post
    Ermm... so cokin filters give yellow cast, tianya gives red cast....
    wonder what happens when tianya is stacked with cokin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slth123 View Post
    wonder what happens when tianya is stacked with cokin?
    i did that before... color cast get worse ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoto100 View Post
    i did that before... color cast get worse ...
    so what color did u get? Is it more pleasing/easier to neutralise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenleonhart View Post
    yea. just dun stack too many or u get vignetting.
    i stack a uv+ cpl+nd4+nd8. quite obvious vignetting later on
    you could have just used a 6-8 stop ND filter and replaced all those filters.

    And UV + CPL is usually a no no. and you are still adding 2 more ND filters.

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    I think vignetting has also got something to do with the strength of light at the corner of the frame which usually is further away from the sun plus the curvature of the len's front element. It can get really pronounced if the sun has not set / has already risen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slth123 View Post
    I think vignetting has also got something to do with the strength of light at the corner of the frame which usually is further away from the sun plus the curvature of the len's front element. It can get really pronounced if the sun has not set / has already risen.
    I am not sure about the strength of the light kind of theory. All I know is if you block light, it will appear black. Thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    you could have just used a 6-8 stop ND filter and replaced all those filters.

    And UV + CPL is usually a no no. and you are still adding 2 more ND filters.
    cause those were the only filters i have haha. dun have money to get a 6-8stop nds
    just make do with what u have and shoot the best of ur abilities i guess.
    i only have:
    a uv (lens insurance)
    a cpl (for fun)
    a nd4
    and a nd8


    i got the image i wanted, and i wanted the vignetting effect. so i'm not complaining. just highlighting to those that may not want the same effect.


    btw just curious, why is uv+cpl a nono? my cpl is part of the tianya kit and not the screw on type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allenleonhart View Post
    cause those were the only filters i have haha. dun have money to get a 6-8stop nds
    just make do with what u have and shoot the best of ur abilities i guess.
    i only have:
    a uv (lens insurance)
    a cpl (for fun)
    a nd4
    and a nd8


    i got the image i wanted, and i wanted the vignetting effect. so i'm not complaining. just highlighting to those that may not want the same effect.


    btw just curious, why is uv+cpl a nono? my cpl is part of the tianya kit and not the screw on type.
    CPL with UV can cause problems. in some situations. I have more than a few shots ruined because of this, but this was quite some years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    I am not sure about the strength of the light kind of theory. All I know is if you block light, it will appear black. Thats all.
    I'm not very sure too, it's from my experience (not very long though ) and some logical deductions.

    Tried using a B+W 106 ND (6 stops) plus 2-stop GND and very often I'll still get vignetting, especially when the sun is near the horizon where the difference in the brightness compared to other parts of the sky further away from the sun is very huge. (unless, somebody invent a GND that gets lighter in circular direction like ripples in water). Add the fact that curvier the front element meant that the part further away from the sun will get lesser light, so it becomes darker

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