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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnKohJyhShen View Post
    currenly im gonna get a canon EF75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM just to try out zooming in and stuff like that. I like a very wide range of photography both wide and zoom so i'm pretty okay with both

    but i would like to take more sports photos being a sports guy myself
    since you mention you are also into sport, then i think you can forget about FF like 5D, 5DmkII etc, they are not fast enough(4-5fps) to take sport action. and even you mount a 70-200, it is also not long enough on a FF. However, FF has better IQ, good for wide angle. Since you also like wide and zoom, then get a 7D and buy a wide angle lens like 10-22 and a zoom lens like 70-200mm, you cannot go wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    best not to learn and use terms like 'zooming in' incorrectly

    'zoom' is the act of changing focal length (eg. from 70mm-100mm) by turning a ring on the lens.
    So a 75-300 is a zoom lens.
    A 10-22 is also a zoom lens.
    Changing from 10-22mm is also 'zooming', but probably not in the same context as you described.

    75-300 is a telephoto zoom lens.
    haha dam i made tt mistake for the second time in this forum, thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinholecam View Post
    If money is not an issue, then sure. Go get the camera you want.

    I would only advise you to look at all the options available and not just going for a 7D just because its the latest. Try to stretch your money (You mentioned ~$4k) a bit so that you have a reserve to get one or two more lenses once you have used the camera and know what to get next.

    As mentioned by so many here. Remember to upgrade the photographer as well
    when you say upgrade the photographer i presume u mean the skills and knowledge of the photgrapher rite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnKohJyhShen View Post
    haha i also noticed that, it onli had the more operative settings like manual , AV, TV and stuff like tt but no night mode, sports mode , and stuff like tt
    Without sounding arrogant ... but those people who are in focus group for Canon and this model are assumed to have enough knowledge and skills to go without these beginner's modes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnKohJyhShen View Post
    currenly im gonna get a canon EF75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM just to try out zooming in and stuff like that. I like a very wide range of photography both wide and zoom so i'm pretty okay with both
    You want to pair a 7D with 75-300?? That's the same as buying BMW Z4 and using some el cheapo tires that can only go to 160km/h max speed. Please read some reviews about this lens. For budget, 55-250 IS is much better (the missing 50mm are not that critical) or get 70-200 plus tele-converters. Ok, it will stretch your budget .. but at least lens and camera are at similar level.
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    Default Re: Should I Buy a Canon 7D??

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnKohJyhShen View Post
    currenly im gonna get a canon EF75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM just to try out zooming in and stuff like that. I like a very wide range of photography both wide and zoom so i'm pretty okay with both

    but i would like to take more sports photos being a sports guy myself
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    Without sounding arrogant ... but those people who are in focus group for Canon and this model are assumed to have enough knowledge and skills to go without these beginner's modes.
    When I was still on the D40x and later on the D90, even though those modes like night, landscape, portrait, sports, were available on those bodies, I never ever used them. Actually, come to think of it, I never used P mode as well. I basically used M, S, A (S very rarely).

    Not trying to sound arrogant, but I seriously think those modes are not very useful anyways, when you know what you are doing. P,M,S,A is pretty much all you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    You want to pair a 7D with 75-300?? That's the same as buying BMW Z4 and using some el cheapo tires that can only go to 160km/h max speed. Please read some reviews about this lens. For budget, 55-250 IS is much better (the missing 50mm are not that critical) or get 70-200 plus tele-converters. Ok, it will stretch your budget .. but at least lens and camera are at similar level.


    dude, before you start bombing me, please read properly, i said tt i will still be using my 500d with the 75-300 lens to try out and start up these kinda lens just to start learning. and about the modes, i have never denied the use of the other modes

    I was simply Stating that 7D dosent have it.

    there is a HUGE difference between stating a fact and saying that its not important so please try to understand what i'm trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnKohJyhShen View Post
    Anyway, I'm looking into getting my own camera and pursuing this hobby to a higher level.

    I understand that a 7D might be way out of my class, the prices is quiet expensive and i may be under-qualified to understand most of the functions of such a high level DSLR.

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    Hi, As a hobby, i will start with 7D, 5DMk2 and 1Dmk4 with 10-22mm 15-85mm and 70-200mm 2.8L,ii, USM, IS

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    Quote Originally Posted by takengo2003 View Post
    since you mention you are also into sport, then i think you can forget about FF like 5D, 5DmkII etc, they are not fast enough(4-5fps) to take sport action. and even you mount a 70-200, it is also not long enough on a FF. However, FF has better IQ, good for wide angle. Since you also like wide and zoom, then get a 7D and buy a wide angle lens like 10-22 and a zoom lens like 70-200mm, you cannot go wrong with that.
    Agreed with takengo2003, should TS is into sport (fast action), the 7D FPS, 19 AF Pts and advantage of crop factors should goes well with his need. =)

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    I was going to recommend 1DMk4 but that was before I saw your budget.
    Since you've pretty much made up your mind to upgrade, I guess 7D is a pretty good choice given your budget and interest in sports photography.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnKohJyhShen View Post
    hi thanks for your comment, erm i've just posted a reply may be u havent seen it, but what i actually meant was to have a camera with a wider range of functions to explore with but still going at a learning pace. may be you could refer to my pervious post to see what i mean
    thanks again for the comment.

    I'll be playing with my 500d for quiet awhile more since i havent yet raised the money hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    When I was still on the D40x and later on the D90, even though those modes like night, landscape, portrait, sports, were available on those bodies, I never ever used them. Actually, come to think of it, I never used P mode as well. I basically used M, S, A (S very rarely).

    Not trying to sound arrogant, but I seriously think those modes are not very useful anyways, when you know what you are doing. P,M,S,A is pretty much all you need.
    OT abit, I also think those modes are not useful to me. I wonder what they are doing on a mid-level body. Should remove them and give me more useful features!

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    Agreed with takengo2003, should TS is into sport (fast action), the 7D FPS, 19 AF Pts and advantage of crop factors should goes well with his need. =)
    wow thats alot of new words lol
    sry for my noobishness once again

    but wat is a crop factor and TS
    thanks

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    you're also interested and serious about photography, so just go as far as your budget allows. I knew nuts about shutter speed and aperture when i got my 500D, so I thought I should get something suitable to my level, but now I regret not getting a higher-end model like a 50D or a 7D, because if you're serious about it, it's simply a matter of time (short time, in fact) until you know how to use and control your camera well. So don't get what suits your level now, get what suits the level you aim to be

    EDIT: TS is a forums term, it means thread starter and this case it's you xD
    For crop factor, just understand it this way: DSLRs not in the full frame professional range (like the 1D serious or 5D) have a smaller sensor (hence "cropped" sensor), so the image it captures is smaller than the image a full frame sensor camera (imagine you take a photo with a full frame camera, then cut away all the outer part and keep only the center part)

    I would recommend the 7D since you're into sports photography. It focuses pretty fast (faster than the more expensive 5DII in fact) and it's a crop camera so you get more range without having to spend more on a longer lens
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnKohJyhShen View Post
    wow thats alot of new words lol
    sry for my noobishness once again

    but wat is a crop factor and TS
    thanks
    TS=topic starter

    Crop factor refers to the smaller sensors on non-full frame bodies. For Canon it's 1.6x, for Nikon it's 1.5x.

    To go more technical, a crop factor is related to the ratio of the dimensions of a camera's imaging area compared to a reference format with the 35mm film dimensions being used as a reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    No. It is not a good idea. You mentioned you wanted the best and the 7D ain't it.

    The best in Canon are 1Ds mk3 and 1D mk4.
    The best in Nikon are D3x and D3s
    The best in Sony is A900
    The best in Pentax is K-7
    The best in Olympus is E-3

    Among all these bests, the best of the best are the models from Nikon and Canon. Take your pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hori View Post
    TS=topic starter

    Crop factor refers to the smaller sensors on non-full frame bodies. For Canon it's 1.6x, for Nikon it's 1.5x.

    To go more technical, a crop factor is related to the ratio of the dimensions of a camera's imaging area compared to a reference format with the 35mm film dimensions being used as a reference.
    Just to add.. For Canon, there's a 1.3X in 1dmk4 if i m not mistaken as well.. that sit comfortably betwen their FF and APS-C 1.6 counterparts.
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    It is a bit hard for to give any advice since the usual advice seekers would work out their budget first and then look at the shortlisted cameras based on the budget.

    You seemed set on getting a 7D, which I assume is within your budget, so, basically, there is not much reason why we can/should dissuade you.

    But your statement about "making loses if you buy a lower range camera and having to upgrade later" can be viewed in another way. If making the best of your money is important, all the more you should consider the lower range models.

    1) If you buy lower range camera and decided that the hobby is not for you, you would have wasted less money than if you buy a top of the range camera straight away.

    2) If you buy a lower range camera and mastered the basics and have a better idea what you need in the next upgrade. You can still sell off that camera and recoup a substantial amount of money. Also, by then, there would be better models than the 7D.

    3) A lower range model + good lenses would be more cost effective than, top range model + lousy lenses.

    Most of us are used to buying stuff and giving advice based on a limited budget and thus, for your approach of getting the "best out there", what we say might not be what you want to hear.

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    Default Re: Should I Buy a Canon 7D??

    Quote Originally Posted by Numnumball View Post
    Just to add.. For Canon, there's a 1.3X in 1dmk4 if i m not mistaken as well.. that sit comfortably betwen their FF and APS-C 1.6 counterparts.
    Thanks for highlighting that I forget about the Canon 1D range having the 1.3x crop factor.

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    Hi Shawn,

    I started out as a newbie some years back. What helped the most was taking classes under a good instructor. That way, you learn the fundamentals, which is the most important.

    So I'd suggest you sign up for classes. Believe the CCs offer them. As for the choice of gear, the 500D has all the key functions for you to practice and improve your photog skills. So you might want to keep away the upgrade bug for the time being, and save the money for classes & photo trips.

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