22nd April 2004, 11:10 AM
oh...those are chinese characters? seems like sq blocks on my page. ... cannot see cannot see...
22nd April 2004, 12:03 PM
*fwaint*... have fun among yourselves if you wish, just don't create too much havoc that moderators have to step in to take action.
Last edited by willyfoo; 22nd April 2004 at 12:08 PM.
22nd April 2004, 12:11 PM
22nd April 2004, 12:20 PM
HAha.. this is funny.. One man's work to change the whole world( or forum)! Heh.
p.s; i've seen him in action already! I wonder when am i gonna be next :|
22nd April 2004, 12:31 PM
Serving up good English in S'pore
'SORRY ah, I donch know.'
Poor English like this commonly used phrase is the target of this year's Speak Good English Movement, which will focus on improving the English spoken by cabbies, shop assistants, waiters and others in the service industry.
The National Library Board, the Society For Reading And Literacy and several other organisations will conduct programmes for those who do not speak the language well or at all.
Citing figures from last year's Manpower Ministry Labour Market report, Acting Manpower Minister Ng Eng Hen, who launched the campaign yesterday at The Arts House at the Old Parliament House, said 64 per cent of job vacancies in the private sector are in the service industry.
And, a survey by the Singapore Tourism Board showed that there will be 4,000 openings in the hotel sector alone by year-end, indicating that the service sector will continue to grow and is poised to fuel the economy.
This is why, he said, it is important that service staff speak well. Doing so, he added, would make a good impression on visitors and a good example for Singaporeans.
Parents and teachers, too, should try and speak the language well so they can be role models for their children, he added.
Activities to promote good English will be held throughout the year. In one, women wanting to learn the language to speak to their children in it can take free classes through the Women Learning English (Wish) programme at 12 community centres.
Over the next two months, there will be talks at selected libraries on the importance of reading aloud, and on using English to communicate with one's family, among others.
Extracted from: http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/sin...47027,00.html?
22nd April 2004, 01:13 PM
22nd April 2004, 01:16 PM
togu: You seem to be a fan of Cao Zhi?
22nd April 2004, 02:58 PM
22nd April 2004, 03:02 PM
22nd April 2004, 03:39 PM
Hello everyone! Firstly, I would like to thank the moderators for keeping this thread open, even if only to see if I stop my actions. Secondly, to those who have in one way or another supported me, thank you, too.
I did not set out to convert people into Queen's English speakers. People who live in the UK do not even speak like that anymore. What I'm striving to do, with the help of others who feel the same way, is to make Singaporeans (at least those in this forum) aware that there is a correct way and a wrong way to speak and write English.
In Singapore, we have our own particular brand of English, Singaporean English (SE). This is often confused with Singlish. SE plays by the rules of proper English but with our own local flavour. American English (AmE) is in some ways different from British English (BrE). Likewise, Singaporean English is different from AmE and BrE. But this does not mean that SE has no rules.
It is acceptable and even inevitable that mistakes are made from time to time while speaking and writing English. However, is it acceptable when whole conversations and essays are littered with errors? Common mistakes include the incorrect usage of tenses and errors in concord. If you have a reasonably good command of English, try speaking and writing it badly. It is difficult. Therefore, those who speak and write it badly all the time really need help and guidance.
I cannot agree that it is offensive to correct someone else's English. Tetrodeís suggestion to PM the edited version to those involved is a good idea, but I will not take it up. It would defeat my purpose. Therefore, I will carry on with what I do, not in defiance of forum rules, but in keeping with my objectives. However, I understand that I may be barred from the forum as a result of my actions. If this should happen, I will bear no animosity to those responsible. But then you will have lost a supporter of this forum and closed the door in the face of one who only sought to instruct and enlighten.
It is beyond me that anyone should be so resistant to correction. Especially when this correction can only lead to a positive outcome. Are you saying that if you make a mistake nobody has any right or responsibility to show you where you went wrong and help you not to make it again?
I guess thatís all I have to say about this matter. I will carry on with my crusade. If you tell me to stop correcting you, I will and allow you to carry on making mistakes. If you do not react when I edit your posts then I will take it that you allow me to carry on. If the moderators bar me from this forum, then I will say goodbye here.
If you are so inclined, please point out my language errors. I'm sure there are!
22nd April 2004, 03:44 PM
Actually, it is 'cease and desist'. You seem to be a man of virtue, so please capitalise your I's when referring to yourself. You deserve it.
Originally Posted by Wolfgang
22nd April 2004, 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by nightwolf75
I agree with...
...insulting CSers is definitely...
...I really hope the moderators will can this thread.
22nd April 2004, 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by gadrian
...if the prerogative...
...but if he stays within...
...the morning's too early...
22nd April 2004, 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Wolfgang
(Ok, this is not an edit. Just my reply.)
"Nobody has requested for his "services". " - some public services were not requested for, but they are still carried out. When they are not carried out, people will make noise.
"posting their rants and be really anal-retentive and start harping on other's way of expressing themselves in the English language." - Sorry, was I ranting? I didn't mean to. And as far as memory serves, this is the first time I've been called an anal-retentive. Maybe the Minister for Education would like to rename all teachers as Anal-retentives and call September 1 as Anal-retentives' Day.
22nd April 2004, 04:06 PM
Laudable though your intentions are, we unfortunately have to put a stop to this before the postings degenerate into a slinging, slanging match of members defending
1) their right to post without undue judgement or harassment from others (of which your "crusade" barely falls into)QUOTE]
Taken at face value, your sentence would mean that I have not done anything wrong, since my crusade 'barely falls' into any form of error.
22nd April 2004, 04:11 PM
22nd April 2004, 04:14 PM
Some people will take offense with your nick. Unless you are REALLY called 'goering' and are not referring to Hermann Goering, a Nazi.
Originally Posted by goering
And humour seems to elude you. Imagine a moderator calling ME anal-retentive...
Sorry, this should've been PM'ed, huh?
22nd April 2004, 04:14 PM
22nd April 2004, 04:16 PM
No no! I disagree! 'Kopitiam' retains the local flavour. Should be kept!
Originally Posted by Dennis
22nd April 2004, 04:19 PM
Ah, than Singlish is also local flavour what, so we will keep it as it is lah.
As long as people can understand one another it is OK, does not matter Singlish or Queenlish also can.
Originally Posted by nightbreed