Vision is more important than gear
Agree. No professional photographer will ever say their pics are the best.. even the same scenery from a different angle may bring different prospective..
Ghaz1, I appreciate your help here to try to tighten adminstrative stuffs as well as goodwill to offer help.. but I am afraid this is nt the case..
Just to share with you, the running of this grp is completely different from my other grp, Tangshooters.. You are free to join us whenever you can make it.. we do organise outings as well
Aside to Cleon, I do seriously tink you got to re-look at the objectives of this grp.. is it the case where you just want to snap snap all day long w/o the intention to improve your skills?
Last edited by daredevil123; 13th July 2010 at 07:53 AM.
It might make sense for you to state your objectives for all future outing that you are organizing. This is after all a photography forum and many of us including myself are here to share and learn from others.
Correct me if I am wrong but your outing seems to me like a gathering instead of an outing for beginner to learn.
A well planned and structured outing would benefit beginner which is what this forum is all about. To share and learn from each other.
End of the day, don't organized an outing just for the sick of organizing. When you organized an event, what is the end in mind?
Last edited by Jedi R; 13th July 2010 at 06:00 PM.
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Hope to see the group improving in 3 months time after I finish my O levels exams.
Personally I would say Photography is like maths, u shoot equals u do problem sums, u get c and c is like handing up yr homework to teacher. Teacher mark you wrong, you do corrections and learn, practice.
During my June Holidays, Ive spent almost all weekends going to Cleon's outings. On my first outing of Cleon's , I feel that he is a nice chap, one who can chat, joining in conversation, share places where to get accessories. But overall, he didn't get to explain to me about what photography is, which compostion is good, sharing opinions on this. Also, almost all of his outings would visit shops at Peninsula, Funan etc.. I mean what's the point ?
I would seriously hope to see a well organized outing after I completed my O level exams. In fact there are many nice and knowlegeble people like Scoop, Iszan and Alan. Very nice people who can guide us.
In addition I posting in to express my own humble opinion in Cleonbus's outings. And to Cleonbus, not to take it to heart rather than reflect and think about the objectives of the outings, u have a upcoming outing of Maxwell, lau pa sat. Take it as another chance and prove to everyone that you as a organizer can do it.
Don't be scAred and shout " alright guys, let's move off ", else people who attend might feel wierd that Cleonbus is always shy to be a leader in outings.
Think fast, aim for the best !
As for this Sat's outing.I need more guides leh.Justin and Scoop can't make it.Why don't you come?If there's only 1 guide,i might cut the group to 10 or 15 leh...
Very well said Jerrold. I believe that what we can definitely learn from yesterdays episode is that there is always room for improvement.
Cleon, I salute you for being so willing to go beyond your age to organize gatherings and outings, but like what Jerrold has mentioned and from some of the advice given, much needs to be done such that these outings do not degenerate to the point of just being a meetup where there is no knowledge sharing, and where each person who comes, leaves feeling unfulfilled.
I'm sure there will be improvement going forward and I'm willing to help out whenever necessary. You're still doing s great job and through your outings many good friendships have blossomed. Now let's bring more to these outings where we constantly challenge each other to improve, and share what we learn with many others.
I have to go back to school on Saturdays morning till afternoon. Sadly I can't join.
Scoop, can't wait for my O levels to over, then the 2-3 months will be working as a funeral photographer, help people to shoot funeral and stuffs like that. Hei hei..
Think fast, aim for the best !
Hello everyone I am back...(just come back from oversea)
wow, wow, wow.... seen like its abit HOT here !!!!
Everyone in Beginner Shooter... stay cool............................OK!!!
Comment is just a comment...don't be afraid to take in all the comments...the more you take in, the better you are. We should thanks them for giving us the comments. At least they spend their time to see our pictures and give the comments. (REMEMBER : EVERYBODY START AS A BEGINNER, NO MATTER WHO U ARE.)
Stay cool and be HAPPY...learn our mistakes and improve it. We all want to take great pictures. Be good to yourself and be kind to others. OK.
A photograph is a secret about a secret. The more it tells you the less you know.