its impossible to determine who is the "best" or "most famous" photographer in spore.
but many of the biggest named salon experts (only salon ppl, cus i dunno much professionals/commercials etc) will gladly offer to teach anyone aspiring to learn for free (or maybe not exactly free, as a form of respect, you must join their club, membership fee maybe $50).
I am not sure if I am missing something.
I don't see where the TS has indicated that he/she wants to
1) attain a high level of skill
2) make photography his/her source of income.
3) impress anyone (even so, nothing wrong with that, not for us to judge)
Why are there so many assumptions that that was the intention?
I see it as a simple request to be taught photography, with information on expected time frame and intensity.
Last edited by ahbian; 18th June 2010 at 11:52 PM.
If we all would list out all the relevant topics and subjects pertaining to photography...
with 2 subjects per day, say 4 hours to a subject / topic, I think 60 days is not enough.
Be realistic about having an interest in learning art.
Speaking from personal experience, I would have said I enjoy the gradual and relaxing pace of learning photography rather than rushing thro it.
Equals to...enjoying my food slowly , but not swallowing it in seconds just to fill my hunger.
As we know, there is this thing call.. the appreciation of art.
When visiting museum, art galllery, attending a concert, watching a ballet performance etc.
For those who had experience learning the chinese art of calligraphy or learning the Qi-gong or Tai-chi will fully understand what I am trying to say.
Impatient is definitely out with art. Just to find out how long it takes the production of the movie Avatar.
Last edited by cabbySHE; 19th June 2010 at 01:18 AM.
Due to resource issues, I am stalking a few individuals here in CS and trying to learn on my own. Didn't pay for any photography class. That's the long and non-expensive way. If I got cash, I'd put it into another lens or some gear, instead of say, a Willy Foo photography course (a number of my friends joined that), and I have to say, got immediate improvements. I'm sure if they have more money, attend more courses, someone dedicated to teaching them, they will learn even more and faster. Nothing wrong with that what
Some people prefer to earn more money in their daily job; $20k may just be peanuts chump change to them. I know one guy whom you prob also know who falls into this category (need to borrow his ND106 ) and I have seen how he is improving a lot. He's getting all sort of things, some of which I feel is ahead of time but why not? I do the same if I were willing to put the money in.
TS took up photography many years ago and was enthusiastic enough to take up a course but it killed his passion instead. So now that he has rekindled his interest in photography, he does not want to lose it again and believes a personalised attention from a good, enthusiastic photographer will help him more that's all. And the time period is because he will be very free for that period should the need arise for an intensive period of training (depending on whoever is conducting the course.)
Vision is more important than gear
The other side of the discussion which has nothing to do with money is, learning is a process of making mistakes and working on reducing the errors of the previous work. The more mistakes we are willing to make, the more we will learn. At some point in time, I will be unwilling to make mistakes anymore, either too scared or something. Then, I will stop learning. And mistakes + correction, takes time. Some things, if rush them, then we may not learn from the mistakes or make them to learn from it.
It has happened to me in my previous hobby before (cycling). That's why the last few years, I was just stagnant. Have moved on... hopefully photography will last me longer.
Pardon me Wildcat, this is just a joke, no bad intention.
When / If you want a kid, by pumping in more money, you child will be delivered in 2 months time ?
And for something real...
We are much aware that enough funds has been pump into our national soccer team, supposing to be lions, but after many years, they are still cubs....far away from the cup.
Last edited by cabbySHE; 19th June 2010 at 04:04 AM.
ts - i can teach you.
As Ghaz1 post #47 stated, ( seems like a friend of chihuahua ), the Ts has got a bad experience before ( that is what I'd understand from that post ) after taking up a photography cours and was disappointed and had killed his / her interest.
So, I take it that the instructor conducting that course is not up to par to satisfy TS's passion in seeking the knowledge of photography ( within that short period ).
Now TS is looking for a new mentor, who can patch up for the time lost since that early course which he/she has taken.
Does anyone here know who's is most qualified ?
Hope I get it right this time.
But Intense wise and improvement... I think it all depends on TS's 'inner strength'.
Mentors, instructors, teachers can only bring you so far... you have to walk the rest of the journey and later pass on the skill to someone ...
This will be an off topic post, but may be supported by many youngster or parent..
Proposal to the Ministry...
How about doing a crash course NS in 2 months instead of 2 years ? We can pay some money in lieu.
NS is National "Service", not National "Schooling".
So the application of crash course(Training/Learning) is not relevant......
To squeeze 2 years training into intensive 2 months training.. the recruits may not make it.......
e.g. 1 day run 12x2.4km = 28.8km..........................
Last edited by Limsgp; 19th June 2010 at 02:30 PM.
was referring to Wildcat's principle of wanting to get things done fast, pump in the money.
Surely many parents here would like their son to complete the NS training ASAP.
Like Wildcat mention, whether can make it or not is another issue.
how come no response from chihuahua, downhere at ClubSnap, we got loads of experienced photographers willing to extend their helping hands, and recently, many new Mods on duty are actual pro in their daily livelihood.
Only that, we would like to hear more of your unhappiness, and why, what makes you give up totally.
Hope to hear your reply soon, and seeing your works post up for crit.