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    Hi All,

    I am back to reply.

    ok, i cant remember how joseph got my number to call me, saying he is good at helping new brand with their marketing plans.

    So agreed to meet him , he was trying hard to sell me his marketing package which is about 4 to 5k. As we talk, i told him that i need to do product shoot so he said he can arrange for me.

    Seriously, I dont know what is the market rate at all. I got only his quote and another photographer. The freelance photographer quote me 1.5k just for himself. So in the end, after considering and hearing how good joseph is and seems like he is more experience, I decided to use him.

    But I must say that I have learnt a lesson on this. If this person is really that good, he wouldnt have to do cold calls to get customers.

    But seriously, if he give me a quote of 2.5k and assure that quality stuffs will be produce, I wouldnt mind paying too.

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    Well said Joseph!!!! Still the ever good talker.

    But dear all, Please understand that I am starting this thread to warn all of you that there is this person out there.

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    I would like to settle the so call complaint against me for a poorly done photo shoot.

    The complaint was from Angelina of Lavena Shoes.

    She has got someone to do the digital imaging of the pictures that had black spots, and she wants a reshoot after using these pictures that was taken by a photographer friend of mine. She also wants to claim full refund when I could have done the digital imaging and return the pictures to her in good condition for her to use on her website.

    How could she claim a full refund when she paid $500 for the digital imaging (she told me this herself) and ask for a reshoot when she did use the pictures that were originally done and styled for the photo shoot?

    Is she not cheating me as well? This is the kettle calling the pot black.

    Also, she never gave the pair of shoes to the model when this was agreed as part of payment arrangement for the use of the model's feet for the photo shoot. The original agreement was 10 pairs of shoes but she brought 49 pairs for the photo shoot, I accommodated her and yet she calls me a cheat. She is the cheat because I agreed to 10 pairs of shoes but I end up shooting 45 pairs of shoes without asking for additional payment of my time and work.

    So here is my story and thank you all for visiting my website, www.impressionsonline.sg, it has gotten some huge hits lately! Continue to do so, I am updating the site very soon. I am kept busy recently with other businesses that I have.

    So in summary, Angelina of Lavena Shoes is also a cheat so be careful when you deal with her. She will scheme to rip you off and later say you are a cheat when she is actually a cheat herself.

    She used the pictures and then call me a cheat, what type of person is this?

    I am mentioning her name and company name because this is a genuine comment I am making. I had wanted to write to the small claims court to set aside her claim bec she is making a fradulent claim but that cost me too much time and money to do so, hence I decided against it. I may pursue the counter claim if she continues to do this against me.

    Also, I will always take any phone calls on my mobile phone. If I have a missed call, I will always return calls. This is so whether I owe many others millions or others owe me millions, whether others hate me or call me a cheat or I love so many of them and they me love me to death - I always take my phone calls.

    That is all, and you decide if Angelina of Lavena Shoes is a cheat as well.

    Thank you.

    Joseph Hong
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    Impressionsonline

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    Joseph, If you are reading this, please highlight the points that I wrote which are untrue to you. You are right, what is stopping me from taking legal actions against you is because of the small amount of money. But starting this thread is to let others know that you are out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hong View Post
    ... Also, I will always take any phone calls on my mobile phone. If I have a missed call, I will always return calls. This is so whether I owe many others millions or others owe me millions, whether others hate me or call me a cheat or I love so many of them and they me love me to death - I always take my phone calls....
    Nice try Joseph. You return calls, but failed to show at 2 court hearings against you. How responsible you must be.

    Hey chngpe01, this is your chance to collect the $420 plus the $100+ in court charges Joseph Hong owes you. Seeing how he return all calls.
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    Corrections, for this I apologise that i have mentioned her name wrongly

    The cheat I mentioned in reply is Angeline Tan of Lavena Shoes.

    Should I do a reshoot when she used the pictures we took and after she digitised the images, then claim for full refund?

    Couldn't I do the digital imaging and then return them for her to use on her website?

    She didn't deliver a pair of shoes for the model when this was agreed on, her husband told me it was out of stock and never gave me any indications when the stock will arrive for the pair of shoes that the model has selected. The model wanted the shoe for her friend as a Christmas gift last year but Angeline of Lavena Shoes never delivered on her promise bec she was on maternity leave and her husband knows nothing about.

    Is this fair to me?

    And, my original quote was far higher than what I later agreed to bec she asked for a lower budget shoot. I know she was quoted $2,500 to $3,000 for the photo shoot. And, I know what I am to do for the shoot for 10 pairs of shoes but she appeared with 45 pairs of shoes, wouldn't this take the "whole day"? It actually took half a day of work, not a whole day as she claims, so she lied and she is a cheat as well.

    This is my final post on this forum and I hope I have clarified the matter and plse don't take fault with the photographer, he did what he was to do then and actually he was prepared only for 10 pairs of shoes but end up accommodating me for the 45 pairs of shoes that Angeline and her husband brought to the studio.

    I am not interested in going on further with this forum, it will be the end of my involvement and I am moving on with my work and business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hong View Post
    ....

    Is this fair to me?

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    So is this fair to the other photographer (who happens to be a mod) that is claiming that you failed to pay for his services? And is this fair you failed to appear in court twice, and till this day, still haven't paid for services rendered to you?

    If you have good reasons, you should not run from the forum. Stay and state your point. By running away, it shows you have nothing left to say and is avoiding the situation (yet again).

    Don't try to act all righteous if you cannot even explain your behavior in the case against you mentioned by the other photographer here in CS.

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    [QUOTE=Joseph Hong;6210432]Corrections, for this I apologise that i have mentioned her name wrongly


    This is my final post on this forum and I hope I have clarified the matter and plse don't take fault with the photographer, he did what he was to do then and actually he was prepared only for 10 pairs of shoes QUOTE]


    Noob qn here , how does preparation for 10 pairs of shoes shoot differs from prep for 45 pairs of shoes ? After 10 pairs of shoes n sensors get really dirty ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hong View Post

    This is my final post on this forum... ...

    I am not interested in going on further with this forum, it will be the end of my involvement... ...
    classic
    Last edited by attap seed; 16th June 2010 at 11:05 AM.

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    My views:

    If Angeline gave Joseph 45 pairs of shoes instead of 10 (assuming agreement was for 10), that is repudiatory breach of contract. By proceeding to take pictures of the 45 pairs, Joseph would have affirmed the repudiation and therefore cannot complain about the 45 pairs instead of 10. Further, whether 45 pairs or 10 pairs has nothing to do with spots in images. The 45 pairs is irrelevant

    I am not sure how the pair of shoes to be given to the model by Angeline affects the quality of Joseph's pictures delivered to Angeline.

    Angeline has a right to self-remedy to mitigate her damage if it is true that Joseph did not respond to her requests for help. This means Angeline was entitled to photoshop the spotty images herself, and recover the costs associated with this self-remedy from Joseph.

    I am not sure Angeline is entitled to a full refund just because of a few (not sure how many) spotty pictures, unless Joseph agree to warranty or indemnity or something like that. How much damages Angeline can claim depends on small claims tribunal

    At the end of the day, Joseph still has not explained why he delivered spotty images.
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    daredevil123

    I went through a very bad patch at that moment in time from a huge financial loss I incurred from a failed business. I was deep in debt for almost $80,000 plus.

    I was trying to develop more business to salvage my situation but that was an uphill task bec I got stuck in the midst of a poor economic climate. So stop being a saint and judge me when you don't understand my situation. And, stop throwing at me comments till you are in the same boat and got off without a tinge of sin committed.

    The client then did not pay me as well, I incurred more losses so what do you want me to do then? If you were in the same boat like I did then, I am sure you won't be so self righteous about the matter.

    When you are down and out, flat at the bottom, financially broke from a huge lost in a business deal, I am sure you may behave in more blantant ways than what I have done.

    Think about it before you shoot off your mouth before engaging the gears in your brains. You may be rich n never poor so you won't understand so stop being the judge and judging others when you are equally human and also subject to sins in your life. I am sure you lied too sometime in your life and work, you owe payments as well as others owing you and you have instalments to pay, credit cards to pay, etc. So keep yourself from the wayward ways and then you can judge.

    I went on this forum with my full name and face everyone as I am, I am the way I am, straight forward and blunt with my comments and happenings.

    Anyway, I need to get some work done otherwise I won't have money to pay my bills, I am not wasting any more time here.

    Goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hong View Post
    daredevil123

    I went through a very bad patch at that moment in time from a huge financial loss I incurred from a failed business. I was deep in debt for almost $80,000 plus.

    I was trying to develop more business to salvage my situation but that was an uphill task bec I got stuck in the midst of a poor economic climate. So stop being a saint and judge me when you don't understand my situation. And, stop throwing at me comments till you are in the same boat and got off without a tinge of sin committed.

    The client then did not pay me as well, I incurred more losses so what do you want me to do then? If you were in the same boat like I did then, I am sure you won't be so self righteous about the matter.

    When you are down and out, flat at the bottom, financially broke from a huge lost in a business deal, I am sure you may behave in more blantant ways than what I have done.

    Think about it before you shoot off your mouth before engaging the gears in your brains. You may be rich n never poor so you won't understand so stop being the judge and judging others when you are equally human and also subject to sins in your life. I am sure you lied too sometime in your life and work, you owe payments as well as others owing you and you have instalments to pay, credit cards to pay, etc. So keep yourself from the wayward ways and then you can judge.

    I went on this forum with my full name and face everyone as I am, I am the way I am, straight forward and blunt with my comments and happenings.

    Anyway, I need to get some work done otherwise I won't have money to pay my bills, I am not wasting any more time here.

    Goodbye.
    you sir, have a serious integrity issue.

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    yo, the chair you sit still not warm yet, want to go off already meh?

    you still owe our mod some money for the bird nest shoot, can't remember liao la?

    so how har?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hong View Post
    daredevil123

    I went through a very bad patch at that moment in time from a huge financial loss I incurred from a failed business. I was deep in debt for almost $80,000 plus.

    I was trying to develop more business to salvage my situation but that was an uphill task bec I got stuck in the midst of a poor economic climate. So stop being a saint and judge me when you don't understand my situation. And, stop throwing at me comments till you are in the same boat and got off without a tinge of sin committed.

    The client then did not pay me as well, I incurred more losses so what do you want me to do then? If you were in the same boat like I did then, I am sure you won't be so self righteous about the matter.

    When you are down and out, flat at the bottom, financially broke from a huge lost in a business deal, I am sure you may behave in more blantant ways than what I have done.

    Think about it before you shoot off your mouth before engaging the gears in your brains. You may be rich n never poor so you won't understand so stop being the judge and judging others when you are equally human and also subject to sins in your life. I am sure you lied too sometime in your life and work, you owe payments as well as others owing you and you have instalments to pay, credit cards to pay, etc. So keep yourself from the wayward ways and then you can judge.

    I went on this forum with my full name and face everyone as I am, I am the way I am, straight forward and blunt with my comments and happenings.

    Anyway, I need to get some work done otherwise I won't have money to pay my bills, I am not wasting any more time here.

    Goodbye.
    I am also doing business. I have also went through bad patches, and I have made losses bigger than you. But I paid off all my creditors, by hook or by crook. But in the end, I always do what I say. If I cannot pay someone, I will not take on that job. If I cannot pay a creditor at the moment, I will say so openly and try to work out a payment plan, or make a commitment to pay later. Blaming your lack of integrity on your bad fortunes or finances is just a stupid excuse. The least you could have done is to appear in court, explain your difficulties in paying, and work out an installment plan, or even sign an IOU to pay in the future. Not by skipping court appearances, and not staying contactable.

    When the going gets tough, the tough gets going. You really see how good a business person is when times are tough. It is not defined by how much you make, but how you carry yourself that defines you. Your actions is not justifiable by your situation. You are just a businessman with no ethics.
    Last edited by daredevil123; 16th June 2010 at 11:36 AM.

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    so this uncle still exist? the well know "con-man from another forum" too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hong View Post
    daredevil123

    I went through a very bad patch at that moment in time from a huge financial loss I incurred from a failed business. I was deep in debt for almost $80,000 plus.

    I was trying to develop more business to salvage my situation but that was an uphill task bec I got stuck in the midst of a poor economic climate. So stop being a saint and judge me when you don't understand my situation. And, stop throwing at me comments till you are in the same boat and got off without a tinge of sin committed.

    The client then did not pay me as well, I incurred more losses so what do you want me to do then? If you were in the same boat like I did then, I am sure you won't be so self righteous about the matter.

    When you are down and out, flat at the bottom, financially broke from a huge lost in a business deal, I am sure you may behave in more blantant ways than what I have done.

    Think about it before you shoot off your mouth before engaging the gears in your brains. You may be rich n never poor so you won't understand so stop being the judge and judging others when you are equally human and also subject to sins in your life. I am sure you lied too sometime in your life and work, you owe payments as well as others owing you and you have instalments to pay, credit cards to pay, etc. So keep yourself from the wayward ways and then you can judge. ...............
    Joseph, these are all rubbish!

    I am not poor, but i started at level 1. I worked hard and finally I made it many years back. Reason of not failing in my business: reputation and never been greedy to make fast money and never cheat my customers.

    However I deal with lots of other businessmen. Many become successful and some fell. I wrote off much debts all these difficulty years. Though it was never a joy to write off bad debts but I was never angry at businessmen who fell and have the courage to explain to me and tried their best to work something out with me. When i see their operations and their characters, most of the time I willingly forgo and wrote off the debts completely. But there are some who assumed that just because they failed, or just because their clients didnt pay them on time, they have the right to NOT pay me. These, I will make sure I go all the way to bankrupt them.

    So, my story is that, just be honest with yourself. If you know you are failing, stop everything and start talking to your creditors. Work with them, and you will be surprised many people will give you another chance if you are sincere to pay them. Never "disappear".

    In Singapore, you can never be so poor as not to have food or a shelter so don't worry to become a bankrupt and come back again. You can make it again if you keep your reputation clean and good.
    always the Light, .... always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    That studio is very rich to afford the world's most elusive f/0.20 lens!
    Aiyo, old school mah, f.20 =f stop 20 lar
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hong View Post

    The client then did not pay me as well, I incurred more losses so what do you want me to do then? If you were in the same boat like I did then, I am sure you won't be so self righteous about the matter.
    Thats like robbing someone cos u got robbed.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Hong View Post
    daredevil123

    I went through a very bad patch at that moment in time from a huge financial loss I incurred from a failed business. I was deep in debt for almost $80,000 plus.

    I was trying to develop more business to salvage my situation but that was an uphill task bec I got stuck in the midst of a poor economic climate. So stop being a saint and judge me when you don't understand my situation. And, stop throwing at me comments till you are in the same boat and got off without a tinge of sin committed.

    The client then did not pay me as well, I incurred more losses so what do you want me to do then? If you were in the same boat like I did then, I am sure you won't be so self righteous about the matter.

    When you are down and out, flat at the bottom, financially broke from a huge lost in a business deal, I am sure you may behave in more blantant ways than what I have done.

    Think about it before you shoot off your mouth before engaging the gears in your brains. You may be rich n never poor so you won't understand so stop being the judge and judging others when you are equally human and also subject to sins in your life. I am sure you lied too sometime in your life and work, you owe payments as well as others owing you and you have instalments to pay, credit cards to pay, etc. So keep yourself from the wayward ways and then you can judge.

    I went on this forum with my full name and face everyone as I am, I am the way I am, straight forward and blunt with my comments and happenings.

    Anyway, I need to get some work done otherwise I won't have money to pay my bills, I am not wasting any more time here.

    Goodbye.
    u are in debt and u want to sue ppl for slandering u (where u get the money to file lawsuit), I am doubtful here?

    I think since u are in debt thats probably why u are conning ppl out of desperation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    ah, ok, i see what you mean.

    my experience was largely with (ironically) models.
    we should do a model product shoot together sometime

    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    yes, controlling the light and getting it right (effect, exposure, etc) is not as easy as most people think.
    Yeah, especially how the lights works in relation to the studio space.

    Quote Originally Posted by sjackal View Post
    Thanx for the explanation sirs. Pro Chu Si Pro ah!
    No lar, just share share only lar
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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