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    Hi all, just wanna check with u guys abt filter. Do i need normal uv filter if i got nd filter. Or i need both filter? Btw which filter u guy use alot cpl o nd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weegheng View Post
    Hi all, just wanna check with u guys abt filter. Do i need normal uv filter if i got nd filter. Or i need both filter? Btw which filter u guy use alot cpl o nd?
    Would you be shocked if I told you I don't normally use ANY filter? So how? What filter are you going to buy now?

    Read up about what each type of filter is used for, then buy according to your needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weegheng View Post
    Hi all, just wanna check with u guys abt filter. Do i need normal uv filter if i got nd filter. Or i need both filter? Btw which filter u guy use alot cpl o nd?
    Each have its own uses, and purposes differs as well.

    Advice is to google for what each is capable of.. And get those that u need...
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    Quote Originally Posted by weegheng View Post
    Hi all, just wanna check with u guys abt filter. Do i need normal uv filter if i got nd filter. Or i need both filter? Btw which filter u guy use alot cpl o nd?
    If you are going to get serious with photography I recommend you get the whole series but they'll set you back like anything from $300+ to $1k if you include high range type like Lee Filters of better. If you are on budget get the basic UV & CPL & ND first. If you do lots of nature landscapes a GND set is recommended for that one off satisfaction.

    UV will be on 90% of the time for usual protection for the elements & CPL/ND/GNDs will be on a need to use basis. Good luck in your hunt
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSpock View Post
    If you are going to get serious with photography I recommend you get the whole series but they'll set you back like anything from $300+ to $1k if you include high range type like Lee Filters of better. If you are on budget get the basic UV & CPL & ND first. If you do lots of nature landscapes a GND set is recommended for that one off satisfaction.

    UV will be on 90% of the time for usual protection for the elements & CPL/ND/GNDs will be on a need to use basis. Good luck in your hunt
    I don't agree with recommending people to get UV, CPL, ND filters especially if they don't sound like they know how to use 'em.

    Just because these are the more commonly-used filters, doesn't mean every photographer should go out and get them.
    The best is to arm oneself with the knowledge about what these filters do, then go out and buy appropriately.

    I personally don't use UV filters on my lenses, even though every Tom Dick and Harry says UV filters are a must-buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSpock View Post
    If you are going to get serious with photography I recommend you get the whole series but they'll set you back like anything from $300+ to $1k if you include high range type like Lee Filters of better. If you are on budget get the basic UV & CPL & ND first. If you do lots of nature landscapes a GND set is recommended for that one off satisfaction.

    UV will be on 90% of the time for usual protection for the elements & CPL/ND/GNDs will be on a need to use basis. Good luck in your hunt
    Thax alot.

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    Actually if you wanna get UV filter, it's mostly for protection; nowadays digital cameras already filter out UV so most of us will get clear protector filter if just to protect the lens glass.

    Then I also learnt why my cheapo UV filter can cause ghosting under certain indoor lighting. Keyword: cheapo. Most camera shops when you buy camera will advise you get a cheapo UV filter also; better to just leave the glass without anything in front (can use hood for protect) also.

    A lot of these are trial and error so what I tell you now may not apply with another brand's filter, etc. Best like what bro ZCA advise, learn what each filter does, and then get a decent one especially if you have good lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    I don't agree with recommending people to get UV, CPL, ND filters especially if they don't sound like they know how to use 'em.

    Just because these are the more commonly-used filters, doesn't mean every photographer should go out and get them.
    The best is to arm oneself with the knowledge about what these filters do, then go out and buy appropriately.

    I personally don't use UV filters on my lenses, even though every Tom Dick and Harry says UV filters are a must-buy.
    Hey bro, for a noob a basic UV is recommended cos cleaning the filter is easier than the lens per se lah. To me a CPL & ND are more for experimenting cos you won't know what until you find out for yourself right. I always believe in 'Practice makes perfect' & not preparing for the Olympics by overly read, listen or watching how other ppl do it lah.

    Anyway ultimately it's the TS decision what to buy for his/her own benefits lah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSpock View Post
    Hey bro, for a noob a basic UV is recommended cos cleaning the filter is easier than the lens per se lah. To me a CPL & ND are more for experimenting cos you won't know what until you find out for yourself right. I always believe in 'Practice makes perfect' & not preparing for the Olympics by overly read, listen or watching how other ppl do it lah.

    Anyway ultimately it's the TS decision what to buy for his/her own benefits lah.
    Cool heh?
    I know what you mean...

    I used to mount a UV filter on my kit lens (Hoya HMC) but realized it caused ghosting on some occasions, and it wasn't really much easier to clean. Especially when using CPL, I found it really troublesome to unscrew the UV, then keep it, then screw on the CPL.

    Most of the time the lens is just covered with dust, which is fairly easy to blow off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    I used to mount a UV filter on my kit lens (Hoya HMC) but realized it caused ghosting on some occasions, and it wasn't really much easier to clean...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Cheapo. With a capital C
    more ex than the UV(0) skylight leh...!
    Exploring! :)

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    Default Re: Question for filter. :)

    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    I know what you mean...

    I used to mount a UV filter on my kit lens (Hoya HMC) but realized it caused ghosting on some occasions, and it wasn't really much easier to clean. Especially when using CPL, I found it really troublesome to unscrew the UV, then keep it, then screw on the CPL.

    Most of the time the lens is just covered with dust, which is fairly easy to blow off.
    Bro, it is cool either ways, to filter up or not filter up. But, you already know this but I am just saying it out for TS's sake, best to remove all filters when shooting at night or twilight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Bro, it is cool either ways, to filter up or not filter up. But, you already know this but I am just saying it out for TS's sake, best to remove all filters when shooting at night or twilight.
    yup I know...

    My point is we should encourage newbies to find out more first, rather than go "oh, when you're starting out, you must buy ____ and _____ and ____ coz you'll definitely need it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    yup I know...

    My point is we should encourage newbies to find out more first, rather than go "oh, when you're starting out, you must buy ____ and _____ and ____ coz you'll definitely need it"
    I have do the search but still don't understand. So i try ask u guy pro. If i can't ask then why there is a forum for newbie.

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    you should ask more specific questions about the different types of filters, then make a decision based on the knowledge you have gathered.

    If someone says to you "you must buy this LG refrigerator because every new home owner must buy one", you will surely ask "why must be this particular brand? What's so different about it?"
    same goes for buying a car, home, etc... it's not wise to just follow blindly...

    Well, most of us are not professional photographers... I certainly am not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weegheng View Post
    I have do the search but still don't understand. So i try ask u guy pro. If i can't ask then why there is a forum for newbie.
    hey weegheng, what you get here in this forum are all opinions and only you can tell you what or how to spend your money, nobody else can.

    When I first started out, like you I got no freaking idea of the so many terminologies on the lenses, cams so I enrolled in a few basic to intermediate classes, bought 2 yrs worth of mags, videos & books to read, scourge the internet for infos, go for outings and stil i guess I'm only 20% in the knowledge of photography. I bought 5 bodies, 15+ lenses from UWA to tele to Macro to superzooms, DX & FX, lots of accessories like UV,CPL,GND, Tianya& Lee filters, etc and slowly after experimenting for 2 yrs+ I finally I got it, but just scratching the surface to the world of photography!

    So be patience and develop slowly my friend. Most ppl wanted to be rich but how many are really committed to become rich? so only time will tell so long as you are committed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSpock View Post
    hey weegheng, what you get here in this forum are all opinions and only you can tell you what or how to spend your money, nobody else can.

    When I first started out, like you I got no freaking idea of the so many terminologies on the lenses, cams so I enrolled in a few basic to intermediate classes, bought 2 yrs worth of mags, videos & books to read, scourge the internet for infos, go for outings and stil i guess I'm only 20% in the knowledge of photography. I bought 5 bodies, 15+ lenses from UWA to tele to Macro to superzooms, DX & FX, lots of accessories like UV,CPL,GND, Tianya& Lee filters, etc and slowly after experimenting for 2 yrs+ I finally I got it, but just scratching the surface to the world of photography!

    So be patience and develop slowly my friend. Most ppl wanted to be rich but how many are really committed to become rich? so only time will tell so long as you are committed.
    Ok i knw wat u mean. Anyway Thax alot for all advice. btw i'll try do more research. buy
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