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    Quote Originally Posted by gabond View Post
    awesome cam....really the quality and functions. no regret buying it unlike my previous f200exr

    question is: anyone got recommendation for secure wrist strap? really afraid i'll drop all that metal.
    You can go to the link below and see if you like the camera straps handmade by the local guy Andy.

    http://web.me.com/andrewee/andys_cam...raps/HOME.html

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    Do you guys know where to buy the following items for Samsung EX1 in Singapore?

    1) Wide Conversion Lens
    http://www.samsungimaging.com/campai.../#/accessory/0

    2) View Finder
    http://www.samsungimaging.com/campai.../#/accessory/1

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    Went to Plaza Sing with peterpan1975's LX3 & did a non-scientific comparison between EX1 & LX3 at Manual Mode
    ISO 400, 1/60sec, f2.8, widest, focus on the "Vangard"
    LX3 was in AWB,
    EX1 forgot to set to AWB, so was in Manual (which I have no idea what was it, I check this when I came home, using this Jeffery's Exif Viewer http://regex.info/exif.cgi ).

    Settings :

    LX3
    Sharpness : 0
    Contrast : 0
    Saturation : 0
    NR : 0




    EX1 (using this Jeffery's Exif Viewer http://regex.info/exif.cgi
    Sharpness : Normal
    Contrast : Normal
    Saturation : Normal
    NR : dont know




    Since posting the photos here via link will soften the images, pls go to :
    http://denniskee.multiply.com/photos.../65/LX3_vs_EX1


    Observations :
    1) General sharpness, contrast & saturation goes to LX3
    2) WB is different, me fault.
    3) The black color "grills" of the rack doesnt separate well form the black color Vangard bags.
    4) Wordings on the Tripod boxes is softer on the EX1.
    5) The Olympus table top's edge looks jagged on the EX1.
    6) The wordings "plazasingapura" printed on the black cloth are all soft, near & far.
    7) Price tags on the Creative table looks soft.


    We also tested both cameras at ISO800, but I didnt upload the photos.
    General observation :
    1) LX3 noise & artifact increases.
    2) EX1 not much changes, so interm of noise & artifact it is better than LX3 at ISO800, but the softness is still the same as when EX1 is at ISO400, soft throughout.


    To my personal opinion, will I get the EX1 (I really really want the swivel LCD screen & dont care about video recordings)? No. When I shoot jpeg with a P&S, I dont want to pp, crop yes, but not pp. If a normal situation like this test shot also need pp, hell no.
    Will I get a LX3? No, the current price is still at over $600!!!
    This is a great disappointment for me. So now wait to see LX4 lor.
    So at the mean time, continue using my trusty Canon G2.


    May be those who own both EX1 & LX3 can share their findings here?
    Last edited by denniskee; 28th June 2010 at 05:33 AM.
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    Thanks Dennis for the share of the pic. I would really like to see more of this kind of comparison then just picture of different camera function. Hope more ppl who got Lx3 and Ex1 can really contribute. I for once will hold back purchasing Ex1 and wait for more review of this or maybe release of Lx4

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    I have also noticed a slightly softer image from my ex1 compared to my Panasonic fz20 and fz35 when shooting the same subject. I experimented with the in camera image control in the ex1. I changed sharpen to +2. The result is better to me. This is subjective of course. I don't think the adjustment has increased apparent noise to any significant degree, so I think I will leave it at +2. But I notice now that this change has caused face detection to be grayed out in P,S, A, modes. ???
    One gripe I have about the ex1 is that when in IA mode you can't select the focus point. Even though it is a completely automatic mode, I would think that even a novice user would want to focus on a particular thing in the scene, especially when the user sees in the review that the camera focused on something else other than the main point of interest. I know that the other modes of the camera P, S, A, M give us complete control, but sometimes there isn't enough time to adjust, and I have actually found that IA is pretty reliable, except for the focus point selection.
    Last edited by kilgtfish; 27th June 2010 at 07:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgtfish View Post
    I have also noticed a slightly softer image from my ex1 compared to my Panasonic fz20 and fz35 when shooting the same subject. I experimented with the in camera image control in the ex1. I changed sharpen to +2. The result is better to me. This is subjective of course. I don't think the adjustment has increased apparent noise to any significant degree, so I think I will leave it at +2. But I notice now that this change has caused face detection to be grayed out in P,S, A, modes. ???
    Sorry, i dont understand this grayed out thingy, do u mean people's face becomes grayish?

    When you +2 to sharpness, how does ISO400 & ISO800 look? I normal use shooting in an environment similar like shopping mall without flash. Also like when shooting performance at Esplanade Outdoor Theater or at the Concourse without flash with my G2 but finding it abit noisy for my liking.
    Last edited by denniskee; 27th June 2010 at 09:40 PM.
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    no, it means that instead of the text normally being white coloured and selectable in the menu,
    it turns grey and cannot be selected when in-camera contrast, sharpening and saturation are changed.

    Some options cannot be selected when others are, e.g
    EV and Face-Detection when Smart Range is enabled.

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    "Sorry, i dont understand this grayed out thingy, do u mean people's face becomes grayish?

    When you +2 to sharpness, how does ISO400 & ISO800 look? I normal use shooting in an environment similar like shopping mall without flash. Also like when shooting performance at Esplanade Outdoor Theater or at the Concourse without flash with my G2 but finding it abit noisy for my liking."

    Just as Variodical said: Grayed out means that the item in the menu is gray in appearnce and cannot be selected. In this case, face recognition when in P,A,S,M modes.

    Even if I shoot at iso 400 or 800 I still have to sharpen in post processing to get the image quality to my liking. I may not sharpen if it is a portrait of someone, and I don't want to sharpen every little irregularity in that persons complexion.

    I think the sharpness issues may be the lens. I know it is supposed to be high quality, but after using Panasonic Leica lenses it may be that I am spoiled.
    Last edited by kilgtfish; 27th June 2010 at 10:18 PM.

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    Not too sure how to quote others and put into reply....
    Last edited by kilgtfish; 27th June 2010 at 10:18 PM.

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    hi kilgtfish, do u have the same jagged edge problem like the one i posted in the review in my multiply site?
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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    hi kilgtfish, do u have the same jagged edge problem like the one i posted in the review in my multiply site?
    I will have a closer look, and see if I can shoot something that might be similar so that I can evaluate.

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    i must say the ex1 feels alot nicer on my hand than my lx3 though, image wise is very comparable. agree that it should be used for jpgs and not raw - i think the EX1 excels in higher iso as comparisons have showed somewhere on the net. i found that iso 1600 was pretty "usable" in low light. and i enjoy the fun filters/effects for built-in editing
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    i LOVE my EX1..








    enough say.... nice camera

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    Is there any comparison between Samsung EX1 and Canon G11? I know that Samsung EX1 is better for indoor and night.. but wonder which one is better for outdoor, landscape, macro shooting? Thinking of getting one next weekend before hokkaido trip..

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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    hi kilgtfish, do u have the same jagged edge problem like the one i posted in the review in my multiply site?
    May be hard to duplicate the conditions under which you took your photo, but here is a couple of comparison shots between my Panasonic FZ35 and EX1/TL500. Hopefully you can compare and see for yourself if the jagged edges are a problem. The crops are approximately 1:1. Of course both cameras exhibit some jagged edges if viewed at 2:1 or larger. The first is FZ35 camera and second is EX1/TL500....same order in cropped images: Also remember that I have sharpening set to +2 in the EX1......may or may not appeal to you.
    First photo is EX1

    Second photo FZ35

    Now the crop of the FZ35 image

    Now heres the crop the EX1 image.
    Last edited by kilgtfish; 28th June 2010 at 12:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgtfish View Post

    alamak, i never think even vertical line also got jagged edge. normally i see dpreview & those most coomon camera review site, jagged edges is for slanting lines.
    Last edited by denniskee; 27th June 2010 at 11:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgtfish View Post
    why the #02 got vignetting one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgtfish View Post

    i see contrast of the wood grain is higher for #01, may i know if the FZ35 contrast is set to higher value (i assuming that is what you mean right?)?

    but the wooden grain of #04 is higher than #03, if #01 & #03 is the same camera, #02 & #04 is the other camera, why is there a difference?

    but looking at the color cast & contrast, i think #01 & #04 should be one camera, #02 & #03 is the other right. exif data say it is in this order lay, ie #01 & #04 Pan, #02 & #03 Sam.

    also, exif data say :
    Pan Cont=-1, Sat=0, sharp=0.
    Sam Cont=0, Sat=0, Sharp=0 not +2 like u stated.

    i very confuse now. maybe the exif data viewer software i using is not correct?
    can someone pls confirm the readings i am getting regarding the setings?

    hope you dont mind me asking so many question. many thanks in advance.
    Last edited by denniskee; 28th June 2010 at 12:21 AM.
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    Sorry, I got the images in wrong order. the higher contrast images are the ex1.

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    "why the #02 got vignetting one?"
    Sorry. You don't miss a thing. That vignetting is from my fz20 lens hood adapter which I have stuck onto the fz35 so that I can mount a polarizer and GND filter when shooting landscapes. It is a good clue as to which photo is which. EX1 has no vignetting.
    I'll try to edit my post and label the photos correctly.

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