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    Default Samsung EX-1 Review

    I sold my Panasonic LX-3 a few weeks ago and almost immediately I was in regret mode without my "little flying dagger".

    Then found out that the Samsung EX-1 just arrived in Singapore last week ..... checked around and did some research......... wow, a possible worthy challenger to the LX-3 from the spec sheet

    Picked one up at MS Color AMK Hub - $650 nett during its first few days of launch (not their fault, I just wanted to be an early bird so coughed up the premium) ... (13 June 2010 update.... promotion offers at $499 at PC Fair and below $600 at reputable retailers)

    Package came with following freebies..... 1x 8Gig SDHC card, 1 extra OEM Battery, 1 very nice Samsung camera bag (in Billingham khaki colors) ..... ha ha ha plus one Spin of the Lucky Draw wheel at AMK Hub during the Singapore Sale (won myself an ice-cream cone)

    From a money perspective, its great value-for-money given its features, freebies vs price when compared to its Japanese rivals

    This is not a loan/publicity set ..........so comments and feedback will be unbiased on things/functions that can be improved via firmware or should have thought about during manufacture

    If you are a sick 'Button Lover' who likes loads and loads of buttons on your camera ....... the EX1 will not disappoint.

    The LX-3 was my "Little Flying Dagger" camera .......... its a giant of a small camera ....I hope that the EX1 can stand up to this comparison from a hands-on perspective

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    Main Positive Points :

    1. 24mm f1.8 lens
    2. tilt and swivel AMOLED screen which blows ANY current existing on-camera (compact) LCD screen out of the water
    3. dedicated exposure compensation wheel (EV +/-)
    4. dedicated AEL Lock button
    5. dedicated video start/stop button
    6. dedicated metering mode button
    7. CAN ZOOM when shooting video
    8. can charge off a PC or Laptop via USB port
    9. seriously sexy looking in either dark gray or Black (I bought the Black) .... and totally pocketable (IF you are not wearing skin-tight jeans)
    10. dials and buttons are FIRM and is not fiddly .... its difficult to accidentally change settings
    11. no Smile Detection/shutter (Thank god)
    12. have more choices of grid lines instead of the usual 2x2.... also have 3x3
    13. Short and sharp menu notes on what the various functions mean ..... no lecture notes on how to shoot which is good
    14. Rubberized grip is large enough to give a firm hold of the camera
    15. Yes there is a HOT SHOE COVER..... it is SOLID and clicks into place firmly ..... it is not easy to lose this thing once in place (thank you Samsung for NOT making this a $5 optional accessory)
    16. 1Gig Internal Storage (have not found this claim in the cam yet, will search)
    17. You can customize RGB levels in-camera
    18. Custom WB is easier and quick although it would have been better if it were quickly accessible through one of those dedicated buttons (Eg including WB selection in Fn button would be great... hint hint... firmware upgrade)
    19. Lenscap stays on camera (does NOT pop off) and camera does not activate IF you ACCIDENTALLY turn on the camera with lenscap still attached

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    Main Negative Points:

    1. CD Driver in box was in Korean
    2. no seperate charger.... you have to plug the charging wire INTO the camera (possible positive point depending on how you look at it
    3. TOO SHORT charging wire (30cm .....copper wire must be expensive nowadays )
    4. Flash compensation was in blobs of whole stops up to +/- 2 Stops
    5. On Board Menu is in a depressing cobalt blue color (at night in a fusion bar yes it looks cool, in BROAD DAYLIGHT and any other time.... it looks depressing and spoils my mood.... future firmware should allow for other colors or the standard black background with white fonts
    6. Self-Timer choices are 2sec and 10sec.......... should also include a 5sec choice as well
    7. CANNOT find the 16:9 image aspect ratio (note: found it at last in Resolution section of Menu 16:9 perspective produces 7mb images)
    8. NO flash red-eye on/off selector
    9. Samsung camera marketing is poor and likely inexperienced in noise-making for its newer , more advanced cameras......
    a. no beta/test sets available outside of the Korean-speaking world since its announcement in Feb
    b. no display units at Samsung Showroom (Vivo City)
    c. Showroom staff did not even know that the camera was in some stores already in Singapore
    d. Its 4 June today and looking at Samsung.com/sg there is still NO information on the EX1 on its website
    10. have to poke the zoom switch to move/activate some of the functions ..... why not just let the 'OK/Set' button do that job ????
    11. Start up time is a little sluggish....
    12. with the flash unit popped up...... making an exposure seems to happen ONLY when shutter button is released fully..... NOT at point of depressing fully the shutter button... will need to check it out more tomorrow
    13. no Bulb mode
    14. Cannot close apature down beyond f6.7 ...(cant get to f8 for example)


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    Unknown Points:

    1. Image quality (will find out over the next few days)
    2. Lens performance (ditto above)
    3. Quickness and Ease of use with so many buttons on-camera (ditto above)
    4. Technical Support ( this is a BIG question mark as Samsung also services, washing machines, regrigerators, Tvs, blue-ray players, phones etc etc etc) ...... I pray that technical support is sufficient for its camera division

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    Pics and other comments to follow over the next few days

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    Other specs below pulled from Dpreview

    Max resolution 3648 x 2736
    Low resolution 3648 x 2052, 3264 x 2448, 2592 x 1944, 2048 x 1536, 1920x 1080, 1024 x 768
    Image ratio w:h 4:3, 16:9
    Effective pixels 10.0 million
    Sensor photo detectors
    Sensor size 1/1.7 " (7.60 x 5.70 mm, 0.43 cm²)
    Pixel density 23 MP/cm²
    Sensor type CCD
    ISO rating Auto, 80, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200
    Zoom wide (W) 24 mm
    Zoom tele (T) 72 mm (3 x)
    Digital zoom Yes, 3x
    Image stabilization Yes, Lens
    Auto Focus TTL (Multi, Center, Selective)
    Manual Focus Yes
    Normal focus range 80 cm
    Macro focus range 1 cm
    White balance override 5 positions plus custom
    Aperture range F1.8 - F2.4
    Min shutter 8 sec
    Max shutter 1/1500 sec
    Built-in Flash Yes
    Flash range 5.2 m
    External flash Yes, Hot-shoe
    Flash modes Auto, On, Off, Red-eye, Fill-in, Slow syncro, Manual
    Exposure compensation -2 to +2 EV in 1/3 EV Steps
    Metering Multi, Center, Spot
    Aperture priority Yes
    Shutter priority Yes
    Continuous Drive Yes
    Movie Clips Yes, 640 x 480 (30fps), 320 x 240 - H.264 format
    Remote control Unknown
    Self-timer Yes, 10 sec, 2 sec
    Timelapse recording Unknown
    Orientation sensor Yes
    Storage types SD/SDHC, internal
    Storage included 1 GB internal
    Uncompressed format Yes, RAW
    Viewfinder None
    LCD 3 "
    LCD Dots 614,000
    Live View No
    USB USB 2.0 (480Mbit/sec)
    HDMI Yes
    Environmentally sealed No
    Battery Lithium-Ion SLB-07A battery & charger
    Weight (inc. batteries) 210 g (7.4 oz)
    Dimensions 114 x 63 x 29 mm (4.5 x 2.5 x 1.1 in)

    Here's what the cam looks like......... check out more images in Samsung's own website









    Last edited by ed9119; 13th June 2010 at 09:42 PM.
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    One bad reputation Samsung used to have is poor battery life. How does this new camera stack up? Seems equal to the LX3 but the Amoled screen is certainly an improvement. Can't wait for the pics.
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    ha ha MS Color bundled this with an extra OEM battery with more juice
    shaddap and just shoot .... up close
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed9119 View Post
    ha ha MS Color bundled this with an extra OEM battery with more juice
    Ah great! So where will you be going to try out your new toy?
    Vision is more important than gear

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    didn't know it's selling in s'pore already. can't wait for your reviews and photos.

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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    Shot on a bus ..... now that blue striped shirt ..... is me.... that is how wide a 24mm shoots.... with a tilt/swivel LCD.... discreet framing and execution is so much easier
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    with part of my pants in the frame
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    ok more tomorrow when i put it through its paces
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    one of the irritations when shooting with the flash........ it takes a long time to lock focus (with focus assist beam turned off) before the flash is fired..... maybe i am not used to it

    added on 2 more points on Main Negative Points (11 and 12) in the original post about sluggish start up time and shooting with flash popped up
    Last edited by ed9119; 4th June 2010 at 11:56 PM.
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    Nice colours. What PP was done if any? Could you put up the details of the shot? I'm interested to see the f1.8. Great job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghaz1 View Post
    Nice colours. What PP was done if any? Could you put up the details of the shot? I'm interested to see the f1.8. Great job!
    You can see the details of the shot in the EXIF file.

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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    Oh another positive point ... The lenscap stays on and camera does not activate if you ACCIDENTALLY turned on the camera with lenscap still attached.......
    shaddap and just shoot .... up close
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    Fisheye function was fun
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    Fisheye signboard ..... ha ha dont work for Raffles Photographers (I was on the way to Eastgear to pick up my GPS)
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    Fisheye portrait... the distortion makes images wacky
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    Closeup of above
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    The tilt and swivel LCD screen makes this shooter a totally discreet camera
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    I dont think they even took a 2nd look at me
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    Shot to shot time interval was a little sluggish
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review


    Comments in this para Inserted 6 June Sunday morning after shooting with it again since daybreak
    I guess it could be all in my mind and psychological as well shooting with the cam for the first time on Sat.... having to additionally flip out the LCD screen to face-out position and all .... just shot with it again and its responsiveness (when i just pay attention to ONLY the shutter release responsiveness....felt just fine without any apparent lag.... hmmmm ..... lets see what the dpreview numbers are on this front if they do a full review of this cam

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    With camera turned on......... and fingers off the shutter....... this camera feels a touch slow when it comes to the time it takes from press to shutter release..... ditto with the fisheye function turned on... BUT that could be ENTIRELY MY FAULT being used to a DSLR's response .....

    Samsung should do something about this in its next firmware upgrade

    I deliberately DID NOT pre-focus and waited for subjects to walk into a scene before depressing shutter....... (first touch -> full press direct) and the results below speak for itself...... this almost never happened when I was shooting with the LX-3 (note above subsequent feeling about shutter lag)

    BUT when pre-focussed........ Half-press -> shutter release ..... it was OK, responsive without any noticeable delay.....


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    Last edited by ed9119; 6th June 2010 at 08:07 AM.
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    from my monitor the uncle in bus & the office shot seems to be quite alot of noise.

    maybe i shouldnt say noise, should be the skin tone looks odd.
    Last edited by denniskee; 6th June 2010 at 01:00 AM.
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    Thanks for the honest-to-goodness mini-review. Looking forward for more!

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    Thanks for the review.
    I hope you could help verify 1 observation:
    Can 3rd party external flash guns be triggered on the hotshoe? (i.e. non-samsung flashes).

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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    Quote Originally Posted by ahsosl1e8 View Post
    Thanks for the review.
    I hope you could help verify 1 observation:
    Can 3rd party external flash guns be triggered on the hotshoe? (i.e. non-samsung flashes).
    have not tried but initial feedback from other users is ....... NO ..... cannot use wireless trigger or external flash.... bummer

    will try out with the PT04 trigger myself and advise all
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    Does the EX1 have Continuous AF? This can solve the shuttle lag problem.

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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    somebody please help me enable that Youtube pic box

    not HD but good enough for me

    Samsung Ex1 Video - East Coast Park
    Last edited by ed9119; 6th June 2010 at 11:55 PM.
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    Default Re: Samsung EX-1 Review

    The Ex1 needs getting used to...... admittedly the first couple of days was a little frustrating on my part getting used to the user interface on the camera and with a User Manual that was a little too basic and did not cover a few critical points (like.... how do i dial beyond f6.7 while in Av mode while I was at least a couple of stops over exposed and at 1/1500 sec max shutter speed ?)

    But by today (Day 3) ..... I'm starting to like this camera a whole lot more once i know it better ...... this is a cam where you might need to spend a little more time getting used to its user interface

    Brought it out to the beach today ......... perfect weather for shooting

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