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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    AFAIK the D90 and the K-X use the Sony A500 sensor. Or did the K-X still use the Samsung?
    Hmm, but for this, I think the processing part makes a difference even though sensors might be the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovaltinemilo View Post
    Hmm, but for this, I think the processing part makes a difference even though sensors might be the same
    Not as much as you may think. Especially if you shoot RAW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Not as much as you may think. Especially if you shoot RAW.
    ok, I agree with this...for raw, it's really not as much...
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    Nikon D700 out of the question?

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    For some of your pics, I find the noise quite acceptable. And with a NR software like noise ninja, you can reduce the noise drastically. And on top of that, shoot in RAW and do PP. If you still cannot live with that, and must shoot in ambient light, FF is the only way to go. It has nothing to do with whether you are a pro or not. But it depends on what you can or cannot live with.

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    since when must have skill to justify FF?
    I thought it was only whether or not one had enough $$ ?

    like dat I'll never be able to get FF, coz no skill....
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloNiHao View Post
    Hi everyone. these are the photos: i know the composition is not good at all but its purpose is to show the noise. peace. (and that's why i didnt consider a FF in the first place.)



    ^1/40, f/1.8, +0.7, iso 3200.

    sorry for the huge pictures.
    This picture looks like there is sufficient ambient lighting.
    1/40, f/1.8, ISO3200? Sounds pretty extreme. Unless the real situation was much darker...
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    If you are going to shoot another event, why don't you rent a FF-body camera, and get a similar fast lens for both your Sony and the rented body. Also, rent a flash at the same time for your Sony and see if it is worth getting it full-time. Then compare if you are happy with the outcome.

    Only then will you know if you really need a new body or not.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan10k View Post
    If this is the case then you have to find a way to work around. Balancing flash and ambient light, using flash gel and those stuff... they'd help in some ways. But changing to an another aps-c body, i honestly don't think it'd help much.

    Btw, have you looked at those 2nd hand 5D mkI? Shouldn't cost too much these days and it blows all aps-c bodies away, as long as high ISO performance is concerned.
    Hmm... yeah I think I should be trying out a flash for my next event shoot. For 5d classic, I am not really interested because it's quite old already but i am not saying that the photos would suck but i would really want something more advanced.

    Quote Originally Posted by hotwork77 View Post
    Have you considered using prime lens? And using flash with gel. Changing to another camera may not give you what you want cos most of them have very similiar specification.

    Alternatively you can consider Fuji Finepix F70EXR which can take low light shots with relative ease.
    Yes. I used prime lens for those 3 photos of mine. Yeah, I will be using a flash for my next event. Hmm, I ain't interested in PnS because it's too small already, and I prefer looking through the viewfinder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Galdor View Post
    The noise looks pretty ok to me. I would suggest that you get a noise removal software instead of getting another cam.
    Hmm.. okay. thanks for the suggestion! (using a CCD sensor. )

    Quote Originally Posted by ovaltinemilo View Post
    TS, if you like to view the pic at this size, it's inevitable you spot noise...but in your photos, I think the noise is acceptable and no need to nit pick over it...
    why not concentrate on the details rather than noise?
    Hmm... okay.... Thanks for your reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    AFAIK the D90 and the K-X use the Sony A500 sensor. Or did the K-X still use the Samsung?
    Oh I see... I didn't know.. Seems like the 1.5x cropped sensors are from Sony..

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmateosong View Post
    Nikon D700 out of the question?
    Not really.... but I would wait for its replacement to come out before getting it. And the lack of VR really discourages me to not get it.. although the iso performance is pretty good..

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    For some of your pics, I find the noise quite acceptable. And with a NR software like noise ninja, you can reduce the noise drastically. And on top of that, shoot in RAW and do PP. If you still cannot live with that, and must shoot in ambient light, FF is the only way to go. It has nothing to do with whether you are a pro or not. But it depends on what you can or cannot live with.
    Hmm okay. I use Aperture actually. But the pics I have uploaded aren't PP-ed, to show the noise. ok, thanks for ur opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    since when must have skill to justify FF?
    I thought it was only whether or not one had enough $$ ?

    like dat I'll never be able to get FF, coz no skill....
    aiya, i dunwan to be seen as those people holding cameras and don't even know how to take a photo... lol..

    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    This picture looks like there is sufficient ambient lighting.
    1/40, f/1.8, ISO3200? Sounds pretty extreme. Unless the real situation was much darker...
    The real situation was much darker. It appears brighter because I overexposed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingaroo View Post
    If you are going to shoot another event, why don't you rent a FF-body camera, and get a similar fast lens for both your Sony and the rented body. Also, rent a flash at the same time for your Sony and see if it is worth getting it full-time. Then compare if you are happy with the outcome.

    Only then will you know if you really need a new body or not.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Cheers!
    I am gonna use a flash already. thanks for your reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoto100 View Post
    if it is not obvious, then it is still a problem?

    the noise isn't obvious but the picture is very grainy, I feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloNiHao View Post
    the noise isn't obvious but the picture is very grainy, I feel.
    I think I now know what you need...it's either Nikon D3x or Canon 1D Mk IV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotwork77 View Post
    I think I now know what you need...it's either Nikon D3x or Canon 1D Mk IV.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkg7pAxi4gE
    It's just what I felt lah... I ain't a professional anw...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotwork77 View Post
    I think I now know what you need...it's either Nikon D3x or Canon 1D Mk IV.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkg7pAxi4gE
    No, he would need a D3S, not the X. The D3X uses the same sensor as the Sony A900, and is not a high ISO body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    No, he would need a D3S, not the X. The D3X uses the same sensor as the Sony A900, and is not a high ISO body.
    D3s with a non-exsistance F0.2 lens.....
    I have expensive camera and big lenses but don't know how to use..... Sound familar???

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloNiHao View Post
    It's just what I felt lah... I ain't a professional anw...
    there are loads of non-professionals using both cameras or their earlier incarnations.

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    K-X is better than K-7 on high iso noise handling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    there are loads of non-professionals using both cameras or their earlier incarnations.
    True.... but I am not as rich as them lah.

    Quote Originally Posted by engrmariano View Post
    K-X is better than K-7 on high iso noise handling...
    Hmm... but the build quality is different... I would seriously want something that's freaking big.

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