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    this is an awesome thread with very helpful videos, tips and opinions! I like Joe Wigfall's approach, and I also did the ed9119 method. For street photography it seems smaller/ stealthier is better, and i prefer to use my nikon fe2 or canon ixus rather than my dslr. People seem to be naturally notice big dslr particularly with big lens, so its abit hard to get natural shots. Most of the time in Singapore i actually pretend to be a tourist to overcome the self consciousness. As for the debates about annoying ppl vs getting the shot you want... we should think of our impact for our fellow photographers. Someone who had a good experience with a polite guy will more likely allow their photos to be taken by another photographer in the future. A little courtesy certainly goes a long way for everyone

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    if you examine his Yakuza images from Akasaka, Japan .......... .... ....it is very different compared to his flash-in-your-face style in NY/Detroit .......... a style that he seems to use mainly in the Big Apple, where lunacy and the Naked Cowboy are expected.... and his extreme close up style ..... strangely...... adds to the color that one EXPECTS from NY city
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenphoenix View Post
    2nd that... depending on when, where u're and who u're, the outcome could be quite unpredictable in developed or developing countries. I'm pretty sure that you would be brutally assaulted by bogans in Aus if u attempt the same feat, and especially if u r small and asian. I'm also inclined to believe that u would ve the same response fr Singaporeans as Bruce's experience in NY, if u're white and as tank as Arnold. It's human nature for most to confront someone that he or she can handle..and unfortunately, bully.

    So don't be critical of your own people. U know the kiasuism that the media portray us as? U should see what happen on boxing day in Melb, once Myers open their door. Some reccee the place, and some hide the desired items at funny places so that they could buy it on discounted price (which is ptless, as most of the items re marked up for X'mas). People queue way before Myers' opening hrs. I can never forget what I saw on the morning TV in 2004's boxing day- the shoppers running over an old woman who tripped over by her walking aid. Not really running over her but running passing her and ignoring the poor lady. A pretty disgusting sight.
    It's good to highlight the bad attributes of ourselves and try to get rid of it to make ourselves more civilised and gracious. One thing that I'm proud of Sgs is that we are able to see atypical behaviour of foreigners as cultural difference and respect them, but for some caucasians (Europeans, Americans - they are more receptive than the rest, and Aussies) that I know - stuffs that u do and they don't are considered as barbaric or primitive. I guess that's highlighted in IP-man2 (probably based on Donnie's and Sammuel's experiences) and the early days of swimming (front crawl was barbaric and breast stroke was the proper stroke, wiki it..pretty interesting). I have come across people telling me that they can't understand how I could eat the "disgusting" squid or calamari, and how can I eat meat with bones in it. Those who share similar experiences probably know which group I'm referring to.

    So do give Singaporeans more credits. We are behaving pretty well, even though we could do away with some arrogance, inclinations towards caucasians and discriminating our own people, and we could be more receptive.
    v nicely put across.. cheers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed9119 View Post
    Bruce Gilden's style of photography gets him the results for sure..... Kudos for his bravado but not my cup of tea

    But Much rather do it THIS way


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    Quote Originally Posted by karnage View Post
    What if you're using a film camera?
    well, anything beats replying an angry man/woman with

    "oh, i have the right to take your photo, so suck it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexblessed View Post
    this is an awesome thread with very helpful videos, tips and opinions! I like Joe Wigfall's approach, and I also did the ed9119 method. For street photography it seems smaller/ stealthier is better, and i prefer to use my nikon fe2 or canon ixus rather than my dslr. People seem to be naturally notice big dslr particularly with big lens, so its abit hard to get natural shots. Most of the time in Singapore i actually pretend to be a tourist to overcome the self consciousness. As for the debates about annoying ppl vs getting the shot you want... we should think of our impact for our fellow photographers. Someone who had a good experience with a polite guy will more likely allow their photos to be taken by another photographer in the future. A little courtesy certainly goes a long way for everyone
    i haven't done street extensively in singapore, i think mainly because it just doesn't appeal to me. not that there isn't anything to shoot, it just doesn't speak to me.. yet. perhaps. but based on my experience in london, body language says a lot. when i first started out shooting street for fun i would be very kan cheong to get the shot. i would do actions quickly, jerkily, and that caught the attention of everyone from even a distance away. these days i just remind myself constantly that if i want to frame a shot, do it slowly, and no one will notice you as much.

    if you look at the videos, you will see a common trait - none of them seem flustered to take their shots. they do it like it is something normal, and they do it at their own seeming leisure. ok, bruce gilden aside. that guy is in a class of his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    that's a film P&S camera of sorts. well, not exactly. something like a prosumer film P&S camera. it uses AF.


    i think the issue here is your mentality. what are you here to capture? why do you have guilt? why should you have guilt? are you doing something wrong? some people use "street photography" as an excuse to shoot random pretty girls on the street, from what i see.. their defense is "it's a public area mar". well, of course no law says that you can't.. sooner or later the law of the street will come crashing down.

    if what you are doing is pure, lose your guilt, lose your fear. just shoot. shoot like you aren't shooting people. from my london experience of street shooting, if you don't act guilty, people won't look at you. the exception are people who are extremely camera shy, then those you will be able to judge by body language and expression from a mile away. if you encounter a situation where people are not happy, just explain yourself calmly, and show them the photograph, delete it if needed. shoving laws in others' faces will not help any matters in a heated situation.
    hmm maybe its just the cultural upbringing haha. quite shy and don't like to offend people with what i'm doing. just trying to capture the beauty of the streets as best as i can. but i'll take your advice into consideration. thanks a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by brapodam View Post
    I doubt anyone would have so much balls to do that in SG
    Actually, S'pore would be considered a lot safer. You're less likely to get punched (or sued) in Orchard Road. S'poreans generally like to complain and grumble and maybe post to STOMP, but not much else.

    Having said that, I am also a bit chicken-hearted. Don't like being scolded, so I don't think I'll be attempting this sort of street photography soon.
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    here's some of my earlier attempts haha...

    basically i just camp at one place (near the junction of Taka and Mandarin Hotel) since there is alot of ppl walking pass so i figure i can shoot something interesting.







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