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    Hey all, it's been a really long time since I've visited the forums. Been busy with uni applications and work right after a levels!! :/ So anyway, I'm going to paris for a holiday early June and I've been a part-timer to save up some money in case I wanted to get a wide angle lens

    Now it's time I thought I get one and I realize I've been so busy that I've not done any research like I usually do!! -gasps-

    I poked around websites for recommendations for wide angle lenses for use on my nikon D90 and then had a 'revelation'. HOW do I use wide angled lenses and why should I use them?

    Should I be getting one? If so, should I get the nikon 12-24mm or a sigma? any advice?
    Thanks wise fellow photographers!!

    P.S. I already have the 18-105mm kit lens and I invested in the nikon 50mm f/1.8 and I must say it's

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    Quote Originally Posted by limalison921 View Post
    Hey all, it's been a really long time since I've visited the forums. Been busy with uni applications and work right after a levels!! :/ So anyway, I'm going to paris for a holiday early June and I've been a part-timer to save up some money in case I wanted to get a wide angle lens

    Now it's time I thought I get one and I realize I've been so busy that I've not done any research like I usually do!! -gasps-

    I poked around websites for recommendations for wide angle lenses for use on my nikon D90 and then had a 'revelation'. HOW do I use wide angled lenses and why should I use them?

    Should I be getting one? If so, should I get the nikon 12-24mm or a sigma? any advice?
    Thanks wise fellow photographers!!

    P.S. I already have the 18-105mm kit lens and I invested in the nikon 50mm f/1.8 and I must say it's
    Do go and loan one if you are able to or rent one and see if you will like the lens first. Nikon has 2 choices for the wide zooms now,

    12-24 f4
    10-24 f3.5-4.5

    and we'll skip the primes for now. Just try them out to see which you'd prefer more.
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    As for when you need such a lens, it's all up to your desired framing and how you need to visualise your shot. Some use it extensively for street, landscape and even weddings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    As for when you need such a lens, it's all up to your desired framing and how you need to visualise your shot. Some use it extensively for street, landscape and even weddings.
    what's special about the wide angle lens such that framing is so different?
    hmmm care to elaborate on how to use the lens effectively?

    btw, is the aperture important since I'm intending to shoot paris at night too

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    Quote Originally Posted by limalison921 View Post
    Hey all, it's been a really long time since I've visited the forums. Been busy with uni applications and work right after a levels!! :/ So anyway, I'm going to paris for a holiday early June and I've been a part-timer to save up some money in case I wanted to get a wide angle lens

    Now it's time I thought I get one and I realize I've been so busy that I've not done any research like I usually do!! -gasps-

    I poked around websites for recommendations for wide angle lenses for use on my nikon D90 and then had a 'revelation'. HOW do I use wide angled lenses and why should I use them?

    Should I be getting one? If so, should I get the nikon 12-24mm or a sigma? any advice?
    Thanks wise fellow photographers!!

    P.S. I already have the 18-105mm kit lens and I invested in the nikon 50mm f/1.8 and I must say it's
    That's like saying.....

    "I'm thinking of getting a car".
    "Which car can I get"?
    "What should I do with my car then"?

    when you should be really asking yourself what you've been shooting and assess if a wide angle is necessary. Why are you even thinking of getting a wide angle to begin with? Just feel like getting something after the gruel rituals of A levels? If you could search the net for information on wide angles, then you are not that far from finding out what people do with their wide angles and subsequently, decide for yourself if you need one.

    Since you don't even know if you need one, do you need one to begin with? The last thing you want to do is ask others to justify your own purchases. Title's a little misleading, its not a wide angle problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limalison921 View Post
    what's special about the wide angle lens such that framing is so different?
    hmmm care to elaborate on how to use the lens effectively?

    btw, is the aperture important since I'm intending to shoot paris at night too
    For that, I suggest you spend some time(or even money) on reading materials to brush up on your basics before thinking about your next lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    For that, I suggest you spend some time(or even money) on reading materials to brush up on your basics before thinking about your next lens.
    ok wow. chill man. i don't think i'd be returning to this place for help ever again.
    (just when i thought everyone here was friendly) gosh. chill and watch the tone :/ srsly. i'm like how new please.

    thanks zac for your advice!! i'll go read up and try out.
    Last edited by limalison921; 16th May 2010 at 05:19 PM. Reason: rephrase

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    Quote Originally Posted by limalison921 View Post
    ok wow. chill man. i don't think i'd be returning to this place for help ever again.
    (just when i thought everyone here was friendly) gosh. chill and watch the tone :/ srsly. i'm like how new please.

    thanks zac for your advice!! i'll go read up and try out.
    Kit was actually very neutral, and offered very good advise IMO.

    Zac's really nice, but he was essentially saying the same thing: go and find out for yourself.

    Kit was kind enough to provide additional platforms for you to think about/from, but everything you've posted here indicates a desire not to think and to be spoonfed.

    You said you usually research, and have aspirations to be a tertiary level individual. How difficult is it to type in 'aperture', 'Basics of exposure', 'wide/ultra wide angle lenses' and 'basics of night photography' in Google?

    I won't even start about a revelation so blinding that it prevented you from a simple copy and paste 'HOW do I use wide angled lenses and why should I use them?' in Google. That 5 second act would have revealed a multitude of answers to your burning questions.

    Lest I be accused of only being critical and not being helpful, here ...

    http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...era-lenses.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide-angle_lens
    http://tips.romanzolin.com/articles/article045.php
    http://www.articlesbase.com/photogra...es-147378.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_wide_angle_lens
    http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/how-...ide-lenses.htm
    http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tec...gle-lenses.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture
    http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...h-of-field.htm
    http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...r/aperture.htm
    http://digital-photography-school.com/aperture
    http://www.cameratown.com/guides/ape...#axzz0o5KewB9X
    http://www.digital-photography-tips.net/aperture.html
    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309544
    http://www.photonhead.com/beginners/...ndaperture.php

    http://photography.about.com/od/nigh...ightPhotog.htm
    http://www.basic-digital-photography...ht-photos.html
    http://www.photoxels.com/tutorial-ni...otography.html
    http://www.have-camera-will-travel.c...hy_basics.html
    http://joesnitty.blogspot.com/2007/0...me-basics.html
    http://www.digitalphotographybasics....t-photography/
    http://www.digicamhelp.com/how-to/na...e-photography/

    That took me less than 10 minutes.

    How hard did you try?

    Edit: And as much as you might not believe it right now, have a safe and good trip and take some great shots in Paris! :-)
    Last edited by Dream Merchant; 16th May 2010 at 06:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    Kit was actually very neutral, and offered very good advise IMO.

    Zac's really nice, but he was essentially saying the same thing: go and find out for yourself.

    Kit was kind enough to provide additional platforms for you to think about/from, but everything you've posted here indicates a desire not to think and to be spoonfed.

    You said you usually research, and have aspirations to be a tertiary level individual. How difficult is it to type in 'aperture', 'Basics of exposure', 'wide/ultra wide angle lenses' and 'basics of night photography' in Google?

    I won't even start about a revelation so blinding that it prevented you from a simple copy and paste 'HOW do I use wide angled lenses and why should I use them?' in Google. That 5 second act would have revealed a multitude of answers to your burning questions.

    That took me less than 10 minutes.

    How hard did you try?

    Edit: And as much as you might not believe it right now, have a safe and good trip and take some great shots in Paris! :-)

    hi thanks for your effort. OK THANKS KIT.
    and thanks dreammerchant for your spoonfeeding.
    well. if i gave a false impression of suddenly wanting to be a 'tertiary level individual' and wanting to be spoonfed. i'm SORRY. my REVELATION was a statement. btw, i skimmed thru the list and i've already gone to most, if not all of the websites you've kindly pasted.

    i'm sorry the title was so misleading. i obviously didn't mean for it to be that way.
    and yes, i did try but obviously not as hard as you would've liked.

    what might i not believe now btw? thanks for the well wishes!!

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    If you think Kit was harsh you probably haven't been around much, eh? He was pretty neutral. Yes, he implied you didn't do your homework, but decide for yourself if that criticism was valid. He did give many useful suggestions.
    Personally I felt your 'admonition' to him "chill and watch the tone" was uncalled for.
    I was going to post the Ken Rockwell article on using Wide Angles, but DM has already listed it -- I think that's pretty good. Read it and decide if you actually want a wide zoom.
    Do you find yourself constantly wishing you could get closer when framing a photo? Frequently at the wide end of your zoom, trying to turn the zoom ring even further? Then you could probably use a wider angle lens. Still not sure? Borrow or rent one and see if you like it. Simple, really

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    Most folks would have gone into a huff and puff, but you didn't. Kudos.

    Since you've been through most of the websites, what exactly is it that you need to find out?

    Ask informed questions and you can almost be assured that many here will try their best to help.

    And no, I don't think the thread title was the issue.

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    yeah ok i'm going to have dinner and then go read and think through later.
    thanks edwin and dream merchant for the practical advice!!

    haha huff and puff? eh...? mad at what you said and close the window?
    haha well, kit seemed to think the thread title was an issue.
    i'm sorry that it was a waste of time for you, kit.

    anyway!! thanks so much so far people!!

    PS i joined last june if you haven't already seen that. got my d90 and never came back except occasionally for prices. :/

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    From what I can see, Kit is trying to teach how to fish, rather than to give you a fish. His questions were meant make you ask questions that you can answer yourself and that would be better than giving you generic answers, addressing your problem from a more personal way than any of us can do by giving you a straightforward answer. It may make you a better photographer, for e.g. if you are able to answer questions on how to use the UWA you planning to get.

    Also most of us are tired of repeating generic questions already previously answered, can be easily found; would it have been better if we just didn't answer anything than to give a sarcastic answer pointing you to the right direction? I believe to learn, we have to take the good, together with the bad. That too, is something to learn.

    Btw title is indeed misleading. You don't have a wide angle that is giving you a problem, right?

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    you may wanna consider sigma 10-20mm as your wideangle.. i'm currently using it with my d90 and loving it =)

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