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    That's why I mentioned "just about any camera". Unfortunately, I don't think it applies to many P&S camera out there. I meant SLRs in general. Like ckiang said, you need something to cover the lens. What I do is load the film with lens cap on, switch to full manual mode(assuming your cam has full maual) and stop down to the smallest aperture and fastest shutter speed and fire away until I reach the desire frame.

    Great advice from ckiang to add one more frame from where you stop to avoid double exposure. I usually leave 2 frames to be safe. Bad experience before...........

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    So, it's not really possible for a compact P&S film camera?

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    Default am I missing something here?

    Originally posted by Bean


    This is a reason why bulk rolls when opened will not last very long once it's opened because of this.....

    Therefore, if the films contain important shots, do finish the roll and send it for processing ASAP, otherwise, you can risk putting it back in the fridge to prolong it's lifespan.

    Also, for certain films, once the shots are taken, it's advisable to send for processing soon to minimise the image from becoming degraded as the emulsion on the film is not developed and fixed yet.

    to the first point above... what's the reason again? I'm still shooting with bulk b&w, Provia and Velvia loaded from half a year back til a month back with no apparent problems, mid roll and all.

    to the second point above....I think all shots are important.... I've yet to say to myself "oh lets take this unimportant pic..."

    to the third point above.... which certain flims are you referring to? Please list them and I'll do my research on your claim. If true, I'll avoid them. Otherwise I've kept exposed bulk flim , in the fridge for a couple of months before sending them all in for processing.

    As a sidenote, I've shot with 6mths to 1 year expired and heavily discounted $1.00 rolls of Reala and Astia (properly stored by the shop), left them in my camera bag for more than 48 hrs and sent them in for D&P without any apparent problems.

    BTW, I keep my flim and mercury batteries in the veg compartment (bottom) of fridge rather than in the freezer.

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    Hmmm....depends on which model you have. If it has a "detachable" style lens cap and full manual control, I don't see why not.

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    Originally posted by revenant


    What's caps?

    features of some camera? of every cameras?
    Huh? You kidding me? I was referring to that cheap plastic thing that covers the lens when it's not in use. It's either a snap on, push on or built-in sliding lens cap on the camera!

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    Originally posted by ckiang


    Huh? You kidding me? I was referring to that cheap plastic thing that covers the lens when it's not in use. It's either a snap on, push on or built-in sliding lens cap on the camera!

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    oh haha... I was thinking of more complicated stuff

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    Default Re: am I missing something here?

    Originally posted by ed9119


    to the first point above... what's the reason again? I'm still shooting with bulk b&w, Provia and Velvia loaded from half a year back til a month back with no apparent problems, mid roll and all.

    to the second point above....I think all shots are important....

    to the third point above.... which certain flims are you referring to? Please list them and I'll do my research on your claim. If true, I'll avoid them.


    I hardly bulk roll but the above advices were given to me from a photographer more experienced than myself.

    What I meant by important are shots that cannot be retaken again like wedding shots.

    According to one of a developing lab which I visit, the owner comments that films like Konica ones needed to be send for processing without too long a delay (for this case, it's around a week, not 48hrs) or the quality of the photos will be degraded.

    Other than these, maybe a more experienced photographer might comment on the 'claims' I'm stating....

    BTW, where did you get 6mths to 1 year expired and heavily discounted $1.00 rolls of Reala and Astia (properly stored by the shop)? I'm interested!


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    Default Filam Advancing in Dynax 7

    ..well..

    with the Dynax 7, its feature of allowing you to wind up at mid roll before finishing it is totally flexible, as it allows you to advance to the last frame you stopped at, or, advance to the frame you last exposed an image on, and you can in that sense, do a double exposure.

    But personally, I don't play around with this feature much unless necessary, because handling the negs/slides in and out of cam to me is not a good practice - I'd rather expose films or slides and dev them ASAP.


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    Default Re: Filam Advancing in Dynax 7

    Originally posted by spilot
    ..well..
    because handling the negs/slides in and out of cam to me is not a good practice
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    Why do you think so?

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    Default i do the same thing ;p

    Originally posted by spilot
    Hi All & Greetings Seniors,

    What happens to me usually is : - if I have a roll of slide or negs half exposed - I'd roll em up and dev em anyway. Forget the unused portion. Write it off.

    But if, tomorrow you have an equally important shoot session, then, just pop the mid-wound slide or neg ina dry pack or cab, and use it the next day. This of course, is easily done with the feature in Dynax 7. It allows you to rewind midways, and then load and davance to the frame you last left off.

    Otherwise, I usually waste up to 15 frames or more - just to get to dev it the same day.
    ha! i do the same thing
    if there are shots that i wanna see, it doesn't matter how many shots are left or how wasteful it is - off to the lab it goes
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    Default Re: Filam Advancing in Dynax 7

    Originally posted by spilot
    ..well..

    with the Dynax 7, its feature of allowing you to wind up at mid roll before finishing it is totally flexible, as it allows you to advance to the last frame you stopped at, or, advance to the frame you last exposed an image on, and you can in that sense, do a double exposure.
    uhmm......maybe the camera's ability to remember the last exposed frame is unique to the Dynax 7 / 9, but the process of midroll rewinding is not....like wat kit said, any camera with full manual controls would be able to handle it, together with a film picker.

    for me, i can do away with the film picker part, since i configured my 1v to always leave the film leader out after rewinding / auto rewinding. this gives me the option of putting the same film back again without much hassle.

    the only problem now is the film speed - since i midroll rewind and push film sooooooo often, wat i would like is for the camera to remember wat ISO i shot this film at, and set the speed so that i dun always have to remember whether i pushed this film before or not

    then again, with digital, all these discussions become moot...
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    Default Digital ?

    what digital ?

    To me - digital whatever in photography - is blasphemy in the art of film photography.

    The DC format, is very much commercialism than anything else.

    Read April's issue of Practical Photography - there's a long big article dedicated to Digital Photography bashing.

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    Default Re: Digital ?

    Originally posted by spilot
    what digital ?

    To me - digital whatever in photography - is blasphemy in the art of film photography.
    no it is not. Not too long ago, in a galaxy far away in our minds, the painters of tat time used to say, photography watever, is blasphemy in the art of painting.

    the same thing is reoccuring.

    the digital Vs film debate, to me, is passe. Digital has won, and is going to say, whether we like it or not.


    The DC format, is very much commercialism than anything else.
    it may be, but there's no denying the positive impact it has in the world of photography.


    Read April's issue of Practical Photography - there's a long big article dedicated to Digital Photography bashing.
    No offense to you, since u seem like a pretty nice guy but anyone who reads Practical Photography, and actually trust wat it says, is completely nuts.

    The Practical Photography format, is very much commercialism than anything else.

    Much of its covers feature saucy ladies / skimply dressed models with no artistic or editoral objective other than to entice the unknowing user to buy it off the shelf. Its headlines scream sensationalism.

    And i've read tat article u mentioned (at Borders, weeks ago). It's a huge body of work full of inaccuracies, in an tone that obviously reveals a deep seated biased against anything that does not use silver halide for image capture.

    You can do yourself a great favour by staying shy of such commercialised bullshit and actually trying things out yourself. The experience will be more valuable than simply trusting some half crazed, pressurised editior working overtime several thousand miles away trying to meet his deadline.
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    .. still, DC formats, are shortcuts in photography.

    Period.

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    Originally posted by spilot
    .. still, DC formats, are shortcuts in photography.

    Period.
    yes, it's a multitude of shortcuts resulting in a multitude of benefits, and for anyone who can appreciate that, it makes for a more pleasant photographic experience.

    i'm sure u agree with me, since u enjoy the mid roll rewind conveniences of your camera, that if we can do away with this midroll rewind business and have (almost) indefinitely number of shots in the ISO of our choosing at any time, it would be a HUGE gift.

    Digital already affords that, and then some more......

    BUT i get wat u mean, since i started with digital, and now i use film very often too, almost as often as my digital SLR, as evidenced by my recent trip to China.

    There are certain nuances to film photography that you can't replicate with digital, that has nothing to do with image quality. Whether such nuances are critical, or essential to the process of photography, however, is debatable. One such example is mid roll rewinding.

    In the hands of a serious photographer (which i can tell you are one), digital does complements film photography with a multitude of refreshing options. Which is why i would urge you to try it (if u have not already)

    good shooting!
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    if i bought a slide film and i forgot to placed it in fridge for 2-3 days (on room temp). can i still use it?

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    Originally posted by tonski
    if i bought a slide film and i forgot to placed it in fridge for 2-3 days (on room temp). can i still use it?
    yea... of course... it's the same as leaving ur film in ur cam for 2-3 days on room temperature...(oso depends on expiry date)
    dun waste it, unless it's realli important. film stored in fridge is to sustain the color chemicals on film, still can use it. unless u left it out for like more than 1 month or so... then it'll be scary.

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    Default Film / Slide Negligency

    Hi All & Greetings to Seniors,

    If I have bought a S$9.50 slide and plum forgot to store it in my mini film fridge, - I'd rather throw it away then risk any disappointment however slight it may be.

    In Singapore's climate - everything rots in this hot & humid atmosphere - including temperaments on the roads & at work.


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    ic ic ic.. maybe ill still try my shot..

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    Default Re: Film / Slide Negligency

    Originally posted by spilot
    Hi All & Greetings to Seniors,

    If I have bought a S$9.50 slide and plum forgot to store it in my mini film fridge, - I'd rather throw it away then risk any disappointment however slight it may be.

    In Singapore's climate - everything rots in this hot & humid atmosphere - including temperaments on the roads & at work.


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    That's a FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt). I've ever left slide films out of the fridge for 1-2 months and I don't see any drift in colour.

    Regards
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