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    Hi

    My colleague recently gave me a Nikon F65 film camera and I loaded the cam with an expired film (expired on 1/10/2008) to test.

    The expired film was kept in the clothes wardrobe all this while.

    I sent the roll of film to the Kodak shop at Kovan Heartland Mall to develop and scan to CD.

    I find that the images are too grainy. Is it normal? Or are there something wrong due to the scanning part or because I used expired film or both?

    Here is a sample pic

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    my best guess is that it is the expired film
    btw what is the ISO speed?

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    Normally lab will scan at low resolution 8base jpeg file.

    For me, i always send to scan at 16base tiff file

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    my best guess is that it is the expired film
    btw what is the ISO speed?
    It's ISO 200. Kodak Gold, probably will get new film, haa

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    2 weeks ago i tried shooting on expired film. my film expired since 2005. and the result is much more grainy than yours. XD

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    It looks quite normal, as normal as scanning by photolabs goes. I believe if you want higher res scanning, most photolabs charge a premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth1704 View Post
    2 weeks ago i tried shooting on expired film. my film expired since 2005. and the result is much more grainy than yours. XD
    haha..does the film sensor needs cleaning? I'm a total film noob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prismatic View Post
    It looks quite normal, as normal as scanning by photolabs goes. I believe if you want higher res scanning, most photolabs charge a premium.
    Ok, so for my next new roll of film, probably will visit Peninsula area for scanning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cichlid View Post
    haha..does the film sensor needs cleaning? I'm a total film noob.
    There's no need to...The 'film sensor' as you put it, is in essence, the strip of negative that is exposed everytime you depress the shutter and forward the film. It's a new sensor for everyshot!

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    I like this though, taken with 35mm f1.8 lens at f4 i think


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    i think the grains still makes it look nice tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by cichlid View Post
    haha..does the film sensor needs cleaning? I'm a total film noob.
    Film sensor? What's that never heard of that before aha

    The only things that perhaps, requires cleaning in a film SLR are the mirror and focusing screen

    I always thought those are artifacts instead of grains since my pictures do not look like that when i "scan" using my DSLR
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    Quote Originally Posted by merelyok View Post
    There's no need to...The 'film sensor' as you put it, is in essence, the strip of negative that is exposed everytime you depress the shutter and forward the film. It's a new sensor for everyshot!
    Oh, haha, I feel so silly...and there is no WB adjustment right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cichlid View Post
    Oh, haha, I feel so silly...and there is no WB adjustment right?
    Nope, most films are for daylight exposure. Most, not all
    So yea, no white balance adjustments
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    Default Re: My First Roll Of Film - Advice Needed

    Under exposure can cause graininess too. Looks to me like a combo of lab sharpening and a bit of underexposure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plato View Post
    Under exposure can cause graininess too. Looks to me like a combo of lab sharpening and a bit of underexposure.
    Actually, yes, I dialled in -0.5 EV as I read somewhere that one have to under-expose a bit for expired films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cichlid View Post
    Actually, yes, I dialled in -0.5 EV as I read somewhere that one have to under-expose a bit for expired films.
    More of overexposure i believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LexLim View Post
    More of overexposure i believe.
    Yup, cos expired films are not as sensitive as it used to be..

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    Summary is expired, under-sensitive film was under-exposed even more, developed as normal, came out real dark, lab scanned and brightened, inducing buckets of noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    Summary is expired, under-sensitive film was under-exposed even more, developed as normal, came out real dark, lab scanned and brightened, inducing buckets of noise.
    Yup, that's sums it up.

    I'm hoping my next roll of film scanned to be like those found in our RF thread.

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