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    what chiu all think of this? saw it on news yesterday.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesteel View Post
    When ClubSnap was down in the last week a protest by nature lovers to an installation art exhibited call "Bon Appetit" at Singapore Art Museum took place , which culminated in a news coverage of the controversy by CNA, CH 8 and CH u on the nite of 06/04/2010 .

    This an update to ClubSnap Macro Setion on what transpired. The offending piece.






    The relevant pages of these can be view at ButterflyCircle Blog feature article "" Murder in the name of art ""and its forum thread

    and CNA online thread: Butterfly installation at Singapore Art Museum sparks dispute




    The essence of Nature lovers' complaint collected from NaturePixel, NPSS and ButterflyCircle and its blog are collated for the TV media coverage and scripted for the interview , it is attached here for your information and perusal.

    The artist says he wants to show how helpless and vulnerable the victims of social unbalance and the struggle of the powerful and powerless in society are through the exhibits.

    In the process, he has created an irony here. This he does, by being just as brutal as the situation he wants to portray negatively by directly or indirectly killing these helpless butterfly specimen. For all intents and purposes, he has lost his right to judge, as he has become the perpetrator of the social unbalance and power struggle he try to condemn.

    It is likely that the artist and museum will now claim that these are already naturally dead specimen when they were selected for the mounting, perhaps as an afterthought as there were no caption on the exhibit nor the brochure proclaiming them as such prior to the public voicing their disapproval.

    However ,The pristine condition and posture of the 100 or so butterflies mounted suggested otherwise. Butterfly die of old age naturally do not do so with their wing open uniformly and are normally tattered and torn. It is more probable that these are selected pristine specimen , killed and mounted in the posture the artist deem them to be artistic.

    It's a sad and disgusting act. Having to sacrifice them in order for the artist to portrait his inner thoughts to an audience who are then force to perceive this kind of work to be Art. Many Nature lover do not see art in such exhibit instead it convey the message of the insensitive killing and displaying of these beautiful dead creatures as an artistic piece.

    where do we draw the line??? Are we to condone killing in the name of Art? To me and other nature lovers, no harmless creature big or small should die for art, no matter how important a message the artist might want to convey.

    More pertinently : How are we supposed to embrace, support and educate our people in biodiversity conservation when these exhibits suggested the intentional or indirect murder of these beautiful insects, and then presented/ condone as an exhibit in the name of art?

    No matter where these butterfly and bees are sourced from and how humane these creatures are put to their death by the artist directly or indirectly . It surely doesn't bring across the right message to the audiences especially the young ones about nature conservation , other than that man is at liberty to kill for his artistic expression and enjoyment .

    I am having a hard time explaining to my 4 year old grandson who loves butterfly, that though butterflies cannot be eaten, but it is necessary to kill and display them on a dining table so that some artistic message can wake us up and educate us on the social ill of this world.

    I do think that some soul searching is required in showcasing this form of art in our Museum, in what does it convey to the general public ? That it is ok to sacrifice lives of living creatures, as long as it is under the name of art?

    Further , how does such exhibitions reinforces the education of Singaporean on loving nature and what message it convey to the world on Singapore as a strong advocate for biodiversity conservation ?

    we deem these exhibits to be disgusting and it undermines Singapore's biodiversity conservation effort and the nature caring image Singapore is trying to project to the world at large.
    poor butterfriess

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    Quote Originally Posted by zh3ng View Post
    what chiu all think of this? saw it on news yesterday.



    poor butterfriess
    poor butterfriess
    this is how art is created

    hmm.... let me c
    we kill camel
    eat camel
    take photo of camel
    give it a nice title + description, make it like an art
    Last edited by juste_millieu; 7th April 2010 at 10:08 AM.

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    1) I do not think that the buds died of nature causes.
    2) they do not feel very artistic to me either.

    bad move...

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    oo something serious

    tonight who go lim kopi?
    lim kopi only or + dinner?
    coz if no dinner i got to eat 1st

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    Quote Originally Posted by juste_millieu View Post
    oo something serious

    tonight who go lim kopi?
    lim kopi only or + dinner?
    coz if no dinner i got to eat 1st
    Together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zh3ng View Post
    Together!
    we drink together
    we eat together
    we suut together
    we pp together
    we live together (in singapore)
    we sleep together (on our own bed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by juste_millieu View Post
    poor butterfriess
    this is how art is created

    hmm.... let me c
    we kill camel
    eat camel
    take photo of camel
    give it a nice title + description, make it like an art
    Quote Originally Posted by juste_millieu View Post
    oo something serious

    tonight who go lim kopi?
    lim kopi only or + dinner?
    coz if no dinner i got to eat 1st
    .... moi consperm aeroprane...tsk..tsk..tsk......
    651D90 Mk II cameller™ ...... "Ai Camel Mai ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawzsg View Post
    .... moi consperm aeroprane...tsk..tsk..tsk......
    camelair

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    camel, worth the value?

    3. carl zeiss vario-sonnar 28-70mm f3.5-4.5. free step up adapter ring 67mm and filter. C/Y mount. comes with front caps only. $500

    4. carl zeiss jena 135mm f2.8 (NOT the common f3.5). front and rear caps, built in metal hood. hard converted to canon EOS mount with AF chip. $400

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    Quote Originally Posted by juste_millieu View Post
    camel, worth the value?

    3. carl zeiss vario-sonnar 28-70mm f3.5-4.5. free step up adapter ring 67mm and filter. C/Y mount. comes with front caps only. $500

    4. carl zeiss jena 135mm f2.8 (NOT the common f3.5). front and rear caps, built in metal hood. hard converted to canon EOS mount with AF chip. $400
    3 =

    4 =
    651D90 Mk II cameller™ ...... "Ai Camel Mai ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawzsg View Post
    3 =

    4 =
    ic... someone selling 50mm f/1.8 at $240... i sms him offer $200

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    Zheng buttie, ish here--->http://www.streetdirectory.com/stock_images/travel/preview/11048348071008/13978/psa_building/

    The multi storey car park ish next to tis building, ghost in prom main door and go right to the next building den take the lift on the left in the next building to the top froor

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    anyhuan has a good + cheap beedeo mic and constant light to recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juste_millieu View Post
    camel, worth the value?

    3. carl zeiss vario-sonnar 28-70mm f3.5-4.5. free step up adapter ring 67mm and filter. C/Y mount. comes with front caps only. $500

    4. carl zeiss jena 135mm f2.8 (NOT the common f3.5). front and rear caps, built in metal hood. hard converted to canon EOS mount with AF chip. $400
    3. The vario sonnar 24-85mm is a better option it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauche View Post
    anyhuan has a good + cheap beedeo mic and constant light to recommend?
    OP gotch sell, small n portable, gotch flaps to control the light also i tink ish less den $200

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkkang View Post
    3. The vario sonnar 24-85mm is a better option it seems
    i think camel prefer the 35-70mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy81 View Post
    OP gotch sell, small n portable, gotch flaps to control the light also i tink ish less den $200
    gotch wings can fry??

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    Quote Originally Posted by juste_millieu View Post
    oo something serious

    tonight who go lim kopi?
    lim kopi only or + dinner?
    coz if no dinner i got to eat 1st
    wat is so serious?

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    zheng, portable changing room less than SGD100... yest tok to kt riao
    http://www.owens-originals.com/chang...ng%20Room.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayngbt View Post
    wat is so serious?
    of coz serious... food ish important!

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