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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoto100 View Post

    it is like a graph, it goes higher and higher, and then when it reaches certain level, it fluctuates , sometimes better sometimes worse.
    yes, sometimes at different stages in life, you like different things.

    perceptions change, preferences change. maybe the essence is the same, but what you liked before may not be as well-liked now, even if many other people like it.

    we all have our own minds.

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    Default Re: "Good photos" can be bad photos.. :(

    it actually goes around in circles

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoto100 View Post
    i wish to share some of my thoughts here. hope the seniors and gurus here don't find it offending.

    I don't think one can improve constantly in art... because it cannot be measured fully.

    what i mean is, one can improve from taking snapshots till one's pics is being praised by so many people. when one reaches that point, i don't think he/she can improve anymore.. in fact, some art pieces look funny ... and hard to appreciate...

    it is not like a 100m race, where as long as u run faster by 0.01 second , u have improved.

    in art,
    you don't need to please people,
    you only need to express yourself thru your art.

    artist in on a constant quest of expressing himself... and the journey never end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    it actually goes around in circles
    maybe.. maybe not.

    maybe the circle is not a circle. only things are set in stone, the story is written with a proper conclusion when this life is over. only then , then you will know if it is a circle, a square or just a big smiley face that you have been walking in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    in art,
    you don't need to please people,
    you only need to express yourself thru your art.

    artist in on a constant quest of expressing himself... and the journey never end.


    hmm... tks alot.. i learn something new today from u.

    i think it is this altitude that allows one to have his own style,instead of following others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    maybe.. maybe not.

    maybe the circle is not a circle. only things are set in stone, the story is written with a proper conclusion when this life is over. only then , then you will know if it is a circle, a square or just a big smiley face that you have been walking in.
    it is a figure of speech lah

    one day i may go back to taking XMM again

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    yes, sometimes at different stages in life, you like different things.

    perceptions change, preferences change. maybe the essence is the same, but what you liked before may not be as well-liked now, even if many other people like it.

    we all have our own minds.



    ya lor.. exactly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    it is a figure of speech lah

    one day i may go back to taking XMM again
    you got take xmm before?

    come to think of it, i have never taken xmm before........

    maybe i am missing out on something very wondrous.

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    the focus,clarity etc is secondary compared to composition and story.



    this very photo of the beloved Venerable burning himself says it all. i cant say that the photo is perfect technically. but it says a lot.

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    Flu meds have a great way of forcing you to zoom in - quickly.

    TS, what is it about the photos you posted up, in terms of TECHNICAL merit, and ARTISTIC merit, you feel should be credited, and addressed? Imagine you're the lecturer critiquing a student's work.

    Also, have a look at the works of the macro/nature masters, both here and on the dedicated nature lovers' forums. Also look at the works of fine arts flora and nature photographers that are enjoying some scale of commercial success via gallery sales.

    Where would your shots fit in and how would they rank?

    On a lighter note, be glad you're not under some masters or places like Brooks, where your assignment which took weeks or months of blood, sweat and tears to produce, might just be torn up in front of your face in seconds with not a single word of ... anything. Right or wrong way to teach, it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    you got take xmm before?

    come to think of it, i have never taken xmm before........

    maybe i am missing out on something very wondrous.



    paiseh... may i know what is xmm?

    search here search there still can't get it correctly..

    photo of children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoto100 View Post
    paiseh... may i know what is xmm?

    search here search there still can't get it correctly..

    photo of children?
    xmm - xiao mei mei

    You will see this term quite frequently here.

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    Actually there are a lot of "Good photos can be bad photos" in CS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahbian View Post
    xmm - xiao mei mei

    You will see this term quite frequently here.


    oh i see...

    i took alot a few days ago... the model is a 6 year old cute girl....

    she was so shy at first, but when i ask her to turn her face for my to take a pci, she post continuously non stop ... and i think i took abt 10 pics...

    haha...

    it makes me smile whenever i look at them...

    the only regret is that i use kit lens, not the 50mm... so there is no bokeh...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leong23 View Post
    Actually there are a lot of "Good photos can be bad photos" in CS.
    that is not too bad actually...

    wait till you see the bad photos get tons of comments like "nosebleed", "chio", "sexy", "my dream girl".... etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoto100 View Post
    oh i see...

    i took alot a few days ago... the model is a 6 year old cute girl....
    xiao mei mei is not 6 year old cute girl....

    just go to photoshoot section, got a lot of the real deal xmm there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoto100 View Post
    oh i see...

    i took alot a few days ago... the model is a 6 year old cute girl....

    she was so shy at first, but when i ask her to turn her face for my to take a pci, she post continuously non stop ... and i think i took abt 10 pics...

    haha...

    it makes me smile whenever i look at them...

    the only regret is that i use kit lens, not the 50mm... so there is no bokeh...

    the XMM most people referring here is slightly older, say about another 10~15years older than your model..
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    that is not too bad actually...

    wait till you see the bad photos get tons of comments like "nosebleed", "chio", "sexy", "my dream girl".... etc.
    you can't beat those flickr streams where got xmm posting photos of themselves in kinky outfits, then the audience is not just singapore pervert already.

    is international pervert crowd.. the comments are far more scary.

    you can pm me if you are very bored, i can send you links to see. i drop by every now and then to amuse myself.

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    Default Re: "Good photos" can be bad photos.. :(

    I always ask myself a few basic questions before I take a shot/include it in my portfolio.
    I find that questioning your own work allows you to understand it better and it helps to ensure your photo isn't just 'another snapshot'.

    1) What is this photo about?

    If you can't answer it right off your head when you look at your picture, then I think you've failed. Your photo concept isn't clear enough.

    2) What do I like about this photo?

    3) What makes this photo different from others I've seen?

    4) Would other people be interested to see this photo?

    5) Is this the best I can do for this shot?

    I find myself improving when I ask these very simple questions.
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    Default Re: "Good photos" can be bad photos.. :(

    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    you got take xmm before?

    come to think of it, i have never taken xmm before........

    maybe i am missing out on something very wondrous.
    back when i first started, before the internet was invented

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