so even the host is part of his team????
im more interested to know how he got the coins thru the glass without his hands covering...
the analysis doesn't look right.
liu qian's hands were not in a poisition to cover up the "hole" to move to the left or right at all. besides, the guy also cannot explain the coin trick.
I know how he he made one of the 3 coins dropped to his palm.
Of the 3 coins, the centre and the right coin are actually clam spring together. A probably over sight on his part that he turned the right coin in place and the middle coin move together.
Now, the dropping coin is hidden in is lower hand, so a slam on the table close the middle and right coin together.
In the black table cloth trick, one side of the coin was black, so you cannot see the coin when he flips it over. The bottom coin was actually on other hand. Another way is the cloth has a hidden pocket to slip the coin inside.
Last edited by spheredome; 22nd February 2010 at 01:21 AM.
On more thing. Many of these special fast magics can only work on TV as they use a slower fps recording camera, so any action faster than camera is skipped. But when you see it onsite, you will spot it.
Last edited by Limsgp; 22nd February 2010 at 10:02 AM.
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The hole was covered by the left hand. As he moves his left hand into "position", it is quite apparent that he was exerting some force, as if pushing the glass along.
And after he pulls out his right hand, his left hand experienced some "jerking" motion, as the glass was probably moved very quickly, causing his left hand to jerk a bit.
but in the final part. there is a glass cup outside the 270 degree region. and seems doesn't move when he pull out his hand.
the thing about magic or illusion is that when you know how the tricks are done, all the fun is gone!
The magician team has done their research, thinking hard how to make various tricks for us to enjoy and we all go and expose them and spoil our own fun?
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To seek the truth and solve the mystery, that's how society can progress and science can advance.
And to create a mystery that others cannot solve is a true master of illusions.
The fun is watching and be really impressed.
The greater fun is watching and solving and be impressed with oneself
Last edited by Limsgp; 22nd February 2010 at 03:32 PM.
Magic is nothing but illusions. If he really created an illusion that cannot be explained in science, that's his mastery.
If he really did the trick w/o cheating(such as asking his assistants to lie), that is fair and I will respect him for his skills and abilities.
But if he actually team up with the host and the so-called "audience" behind him, to mislead the public that they are not part of the team, that, is really low class.
If the host and the audience lied ( The host and the audience pretended that they are not part of the team), then they are nothing but cheats.. isn't it?
Last edited by Limsgp; 22nd February 2010 at 03:33 PM.
Any video link to that? Have not seen it.
One common coin disappearing in an inverted clear glass magic is the mouth of the glass is pasted with the same material as the cloth on the table. So when the magician inverts the glass over coin, the coin disappear but actually under the mouth.
Magician wear ring the create the coin clinking sound, the coins are actually very soft material these case which spring up quickly. But bec they are soft, non metallic, it cannot make sound. That is where the ring comes it.
From around 2:30 mins, the coin appeared in the glass. Guess most likely is shot from the table.. maybe need to review the video again..
If the host is in cahoots with Liu Qian then everything makes sense liao..
including the other "magic" performances.
Last edited by Limsgp; 22nd February 2010 at 05:29 PM.
Another video that exposed how he "put" the ring into the egg at the CNY show in China 2009.