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Old 6th May 2002   #1
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Hi everyone,

I am currently using a casio qv-2900. I am thinking of getting an external flash but not sure what would be a wise choice.

I have been asking around in CP and MS colour, seems that they only carry a few brand, Achiever, Metz and Vivitar. Any recommendations?
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hi luc! Tweek here...haven't seen your shots from the BG yet leh?

I'm using the Vivitar 285HV, you saw it that day right? It's quite good, with a strong GN of 120 ft, but it's a little too bulky. mpenza uses the same cam as you and he uses a metz flash, maybe he can recommend that to you too.
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I'm using a Metz 32-Z1 with a "hotshoe trigger" connected to the QV2900UX.

What's your budget? Tweek's and mine's are over $100.
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hi luc! Tweek here...haven't seen your shots from the BG yet leh?

I'm using the Vivitar 285HV, you saw it that day right? It's quite good, with a strong GN of 120 ft, but it's a little too bulky. mpenza uses the same cam as you and he uses a metz flash, maybe he can recommend that to you too.
my shots quite bad leh..out of focus for some of them..not sure why...
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I'm using a Metz 32-Z1 with a "hotshoe trigger" connected to the QV2900UX.

What's your budget? Tweek's and mine's are over $100.
my budget is actually less than S$100, but if it is good, i.e. I can use it with other cameras later on, than I might consider spending more...how much is the Metz?
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my budget is actually less than S$100, but if it is good, i.e. I can use it with other cameras later on, than I might consider spending more...how much is the Metz?
Retails for ~$170. I bought a 2nd hand one for $110. It's weaker than the Vivitar 285HV.
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my shots quite bad leh..out of focus for some of them..not sure why...
how come? too slow shutter speed?
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how come? too slow shutter speed?
could be...photos are here, take a look and tell me what u think?

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could be...photos are here, take a look and tell me what u think?

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most of the pics look not bad leh.

using F8 will result in very slow shutter speed, making it susceptible to hand movements.

Anyway with the close-up +4 filter, the focussing point is around 25cm (auto focus). Alternatively, you could set to infinity focus wich will result in a (more or less) fixed focusing distance of 25 cm.

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my shots quite bad leh..out of focus for some of them..not sure why...
your shots are okay wat ... maybe due to low shutter speed tt cause a bit out of focus ...
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I also agree that the photos are not too bad! A bit of blur in some shots, but quite good overall.
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Anyway, back to the original question, luc, you'll need to get a flash bracket (~$10++ - $30) to mount the flash.

If the flash uses a standard PC cord, you could just mount it on the bracket and sync with the PC cord.

If the flash doesn't use a standard PC cord but can be hotshoe triggerred, you could get an additional "hotshoe with PC cord" (~$12).

Anyway, for the flash, the trigger voltage should not be more than 16V (according to Casio tech support).

Some cheap flash: Achiever 260T ($35, recommended by Alan Photo) has a trigger voltage of over 200V, so don't get it. Achiever TZ250 ($41) has a lower trigger voltage of 8V and I've tested it working with my QV2900UX. It's not very powerful (GN 83ft) but would already be much more powerful than the built-in flash (~GN 27 ft). It comes with a PC cord too.

http://www.achiever-hk.com/flash/dedicate.html

Achiever 630AF ($97) would probably work well too but I did not test it myself. I expect the voltage to fall within range.

http://www.achiever-hk.com/flash/auto.html

Any other auto flash (which allows you to set Aperture and ISO) would work too. If you want to check out the trigger voltage, you can refer to this:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html
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Anyway, back to the original question, luc, you'll need to get a flash bracket (~$10++ - $30) to mount the flash.

If the flash uses a standard PC cord, you could just mount it on the bracket and sync with the PC cord.

If the flash doesn't use a standard PC cord but can be hotshoe triggerred, you could get an additional "hotshoe with PC cord" (~$12).

Anyway, for the flash, the trigger voltage should not be more than 16V (according to Casio tech support).

Some cheap flash: Achiever 260T ($35, recommended by Alan Photo) has a trigger voltage of over 200V, so don't get it. Achiever TZ250 ($41) has a lower trigger voltage of 8V and I've tested it working with my QV2900UX. It's not very powerful (GN 83ft) but would already be much more powerful than the built-in flash (~GN 27 ft). It comes with a PC cord too.

http://www.achiever-hk.com/flash/dedicate.html

Achiever 630AF ($97) would probably work well too but I did not test it myself. I expect the voltage to fall within range.

http://www.achiever-hk.com/flash/auto.html

Any other auto flash (which allows you to set Aperture and ISO) would work too. If you want to check out the trigger voltage, you can refer to this:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html
cool, thanks for the info..
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I also agree that the photos are not too bad! A bit of blur in some shots, but quite good overall.
thanks, but your's and megaweb's are definitely much clearer...maybe I should use a high shutter speed nex time..
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thanks, but your's and megaweb's are definitely much clearer...maybe I should use a high shutter speed nex time..
the flash helped for me...the overcast that morning didn't provide enough ambient light for fast shutter speed. If I hadn't used the flash, I would have gotten lots of blurred shots too I think. Anyway, hope the new flash you're considering to get can help you in this aspect!
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